Crossover with Batman!!! - Page 31

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 02-09-2016, 01:46 PM

Yeah, I know. And a simple agreement to allow character cross-pollinization of the studios' films without rewriting of the backstory would negate the need for pointless and ridiculous retcons in the comics- which ARE the source material, after all. Movies should follow the established comics, not the other way around. I'm NOT a fan of retcons, because more often than not, they cause needless confusion and complication of character arcs and story plots that havecoften been in continuity for decades (and usually piss off fans in the process). QS and SW are a prime example. Essentially, it limited Marvel to using "imposter" versions of both, or two characters who resembled their original counterparts only in name and power-set, with none of the backstory and associations that actually make them who they are. Since it is the comic fans who are going to be both prime audience and most discerning critics, it behooves them to try to keep their core fanbase (IE the people most likely to go see the movies of favorite characters) happy. As opposed to making arbitrary decisions to alter this or that character for use in movies, just to appease a "rival" studio (when they SHOULD be partnering to capitalize on the market by making characters available to both equally without alteration).

And doing so just to fit a character into an existing movie world without using their history or ancilliary characters is just- silly. Might as well use Miles indstead of Peter if going that route, for a very pointed example of taking a character "in name only", which is what ends up happening at one end or the other of situations like the Maximoffs'. There absolutely needs to be more direct cooperation between studios for things like this to work when dealing with a huge stable of co-existing characters like the comics MU- or DCU, for that matter.

I guess I prefer to look at the bigger picture and how these things affect the future of the entire franchise, in movie and comic format, over the long term. Fox could do so much more with the X-Men if they gave the IP creators the freedom to incorporate them, and do likewise themselves with characters Marvel still owns but isn't currently using- or that they just want to "borrow" for a scene or two. Cinematic synergy, that would probably improve the overall profits of both, as fans would be more likely to see an X- Men film with Wolverine in WWII, if they knew Cap would show up! Or see a Cap movie with a WWII flashback that involves Logan. Or Spidey in an FF film partnering with Johnny. Or an episode of Daredevil with Deadpool in it. The possibilities would be endless. As long as they could agree to share with equity. Maybe they could work up a sort of "character contract" for actors playing certain characters so they would be able to work for whichever studio was using said character, regardless who owns the rights to the character, without changing contracts. Just throwing out some ideas.

*ToTheNines* · 02-16-2016, 07:11 AM

Pencils and inks preview of Eastman's #5 cover:

Spoiler:

*myconius* · 02-16-2016, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Pencils and inks preview of Eastman's #5 cover:

http://tmnt-ninjaturtles.com/assets/20160214_142036.jpg

each of his covers seems like he's getting back into his groove zone!

Jay $tarkiller · 02-16-2016, 01:47 PM

hell yeah..finally the Casemeister

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-16-2016, 02:03 PM

So... Batman's gonna cross over to TMNT NYC?

*ToTheNines* · 02-16-2016, 02:09 PM

Don't think so. The #5 solicit said something about the GCPD arresting CJ, so he ends up in DC-land somehow.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-16-2016, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Don't think so. The #5 solicit said something about the GCPD arresting CJ, so he ends up in DC-land somehow.

I don't think I've seen the #5 solicit; link?

EDIT: Never mind, I found it... bizarre. I wonder how Casey ended up over here?

cookie jar · 02-16-2016, 03:04 PM

BATMAN/TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES #6

Spoiler:

The crossover event of the year comes to its thrilling conclusion. The Turtles have one last, desperate shot at going home. But will they take it, knowing what nefarious plans Shredder has for Gotham City? It’s full-on ninja warfare as our heroes go up against the combined forces of the Foot Clan and the League of Assassins. Co-published with IDW.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-16-2016, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cookie jar

BATMAN/TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES #6

Spoiler:

The crossover event of the year comes to its thrilling conclusion. The Turtles have one last, desperate shot at going home. But will they take it, knowing what nefarious plans Shredder has for Gotham City? It’s full-on ninja warfare as our heroes go up against the combined forces of the Foot Clan and the League of Assassins. Co-published with IDW.

Extremely interesting...

*Candy Kappa* · 02-16-2016, 03:13 PM

Williams does a wonderful Shredder, he looks so intimidating.

*ToTheNines* · 02-16-2016, 03:27 PM

Hell yeah man. This has been my dream team up for years and I did not expect them to touch the Assassins. Very excited.

*CyberCubed* · 02-16-2016, 04:03 PM

I wonder how they're going to wrap this all up in only 3 more issues. I get the feeling its going to get extremely rushed.

02-09-2016, 01:46 PM	#601
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,772	Yeah, I know. And a simple agreement to allow character cross-pollinization of the studios' films without rewriting of the backstory would negate the need for pointless and ridiculous retcons in the comics- which ARE the source material, after all. Movies should follow the established comics, not the other way around. I'm NOT a fan of retcons, because more often than not, they cause needless confusion and complication of character arcs and story plots that havecoften been in continuity for decades (and usually piss off fans in the process). QS and SW are a prime example. Essentially, it limited Marvel to using "imposter" versions of both, or two characters who resembled their original counterparts only in name and power-set, with none of the backstory and associations that actually make them who they are. Since it is the comic fans who are going to be both prime audience and most discerning critics, it behooves them to try to keep their core fanbase (IE the people most likely to go see the movies of favorite characters) happy. As opposed to making arbitrary decisions to alter this or that character for use in movies, just to appease a "rival" studio (when they SHOULD be partnering to capitalize on the market by making characters available to both equally without alteration). And doing so just to fit a character into an existing movie world without using their history or ancilliary characters is just- silly. Might as well use Miles indstead of Peter if going that route, for a very pointed example of taking a character "in name only", which is what ends up happening at one end or the other of situations like the Maximoffs'. There absolutely needs to be more direct cooperation between studios for things like this to work when dealing with a huge stable of co-existing characters like the comics MU- or DCU, for that matter. I guess I prefer to look at the bigger picture and how these things affect the future of the entire franchise, in movie and comic format, over the long term. Fox could do so much more with the X-Men if they gave the IP creators the freedom to incorporate them, and do likewise themselves with characters Marvel still owns but isn't currently using- or that they just want to "borrow" for a scene or two. Cinematic synergy, that would probably improve the overall profits of both, as fans would be more likely to see an X- Men film with Wolverine in WWII, if they knew Cap would show up! Or see a Cap movie with a WWII flashback that involves Logan. Or Spidey in an FF film partnering with Johnny. Or an episode of Daredevil with Deadpool in it. The possibilities would be endless. As long as they could agree to share with equity. Maybe they could work up a sort of "character contract" for actors playing certain characters so they would be able to work for whichever studio was using said character, regardless who owns the rights to the character, without changing contracts. Just throwing out some ideas. __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

02-16-2016, 01:47 PM	#604
Jay $tarkiller Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Dortmund, Germany Posts: 915	hell yeah..finally the Casemeister __________________

02-16-2016, 02:03 PM	#605
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	So... Batman's gonna cross over to TMNT NYC? __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

02-16-2016, 03:13 PM	#610
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	Williams does a wonderful Shredder, he looks so intimidating. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

02-16-2016, 07:11 AM	#602
ToTheNines [sic] Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 15,098	Pencils and inks preview of Eastman's #5 cover: Spoiler:

02-16-2016, 02:09 PM	#606
ToTheNines [sic] Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 15,098	Don't think so. The #5 solicit said something about the GCPD arresting CJ, so he ends up in DC-land somehow.

02-16-2016, 03:04 PM	#608
cookie jar Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 264	BATMAN/TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES #6 Spoiler: The crossover event of the year comes to its thrilling conclusion. The Turtles have one last, desperate shot at going home. But will they take it, knowing what nefarious plans Shredder has for Gotham City? It’s full-on ninja warfare as our heroes go up against the combined forces of the Foot Clan and the League of Assassins. Co-published with IDW.

02-16-2016, 03:27 PM	#611
ToTheNines [sic] Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 15,098	Hell yeah man. This has been my dream team up for years and I did not expect them to touch the Assassins. Very excited.

02-16-2016, 04:03 PM	#612
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,031	I wonder how they're going to wrap this all up in only 3 more issues. I get the feeling its going to get extremely rushed.