If Nickelodeon never bought TMNT

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 01-30-2017, 08:30 AM

When Nickelodeon bought the TMNT-franchise in October 2009, the 2003–2009 animated TV-series was over, and Turtles Forever had aired.

But what would we have if they never did? Would we now have two films, IDW comics and the 2012 cartoon? Something else, or nothing new at all?

*Jephael* · 01-30-2017, 08:42 AM

I for one am glad with what the buyout has given us, especially the return of not just Kevin Eastman's presence in the franchise but wonderful talents like Rob Paulsen. I'm sure it was a tough decision for Peter Laird to make, and I'm willing to bet he spent many countless nights debating whether or not it would be a good idea. I wish people would just get over the fact that Mirage no longer holds the rights to TMNT.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 01-30-2017, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jephael

I for one am glad with what the buyout has given us, especially the return of not just Kevin Eastman's presence in the franchise but wonderful talents like Rob Paulsen. I'm sure it was a tough decision for Peter Laird to make, and I'm willing to bet he spent many countless nights debating whether or not it would be a good idea. I wish people would just get over the fact that Mirage no longer holds the rights to TMNT.

But do you think we would have anything new post-2009 if that never happened?

*Wesley* · 01-30-2017, 10:00 AM

I'd say we wouldn't have got anything new if Nickelodeon never bought TMNT. Peter Laird had grown tired of it and wanted to move on.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 01-30-2017, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Wesley

I'd say we wouldn't have got anything new if Nickelodeon never bought TMNT. Peter Laird had grown tired of it and wanted to move on.

Not even two films?

*Wesley* · 01-30-2017, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

Not even two films?

Maybe one or two films and the IDW comics, but I think a new cartoon would not have been made.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 01-30-2017, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Wesley

Maybe one or two films and the IDW comics, but I think a new cartoon would not have been made.

There would probably not be possible to put all characters the producers want into the same version (except for maybe Krang, Vernon, Bebop and Rocksteady appearing in the films).

*neatoman* · 01-30-2017, 11:15 AM

I don't know... Maybe Peter would have ended up licensing TMNT for another cartoon? It seems like the most likely scenario, only he probably wouldn't be as involved that time around as he was with the 2003 series, only vetoing a few things.

What I have in mind is something like this, imagine that he licensed TMNT to Nickelodeon for a cartoon and they ended up putting the same people to work. You'd basically end up with the same show, only without Bebop, Rocksteady, Slash etc.

*Roseangelo* · 01-30-2017, 11:24 AM

The franchise was dead in the water when Nickelodeon bought it.

*CyberCubed* · 01-30-2017, 11:29 AM

The TMNT franchise as a whole would be like the current state of Mirage comics from PL....non-existent.

IDW would have never gotten the license if not for Nick, so we would have no new comics now either.

*Redeemer* · 02-18-2017, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Wesley

I'd say we wouldn't have got anything new if Nickelodeon never bought TMNT. Peter Laird had grown tired of it and wanted to move on.

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

The franchise was dead in the water when Nickelodeon bought it.

I guess everyone forgot the movie that PL was making?????

They were trying to reboot the franchise with more serious movie, which I imagine would have been like a Mirage style TMNT.
The movie was toward the end of the casting stage if I remember correctly.

I think we would have gotten a couple movies, but I don't think we would have gotten a new comic line or a new cartoon sense the 4kids cartoon just ended.

*Sabacooza* · 01-30-2017, 11:44 AM

If Nickelodeon wouldn't have bought TMNT, I would've been so happy. However, we wouldn't have gotten the IDW comics and I do love those. We probably would've gotten a better live action movie as well.

*CyberCubed* · 01-30-2017, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabacooza

If Nickelodeon wouldn't have bought TMNT, I would've been so happy. However, we wouldn't have gotten the IDW comics and I do love those. We probably would've gotten a better live action movie as well.

No we wouldn't have. The movie deal was dead in the water before Nick picked it up.

And why would you have been so happy if Nick didn't get the license? The cartoon was a huge hit, and you don't have to watch it if you don't want to.

*plastroncafe* · 01-30-2017, 12:12 PM

While I doubt this is the case, I'm curious how things would be now if someone other than Nick had picked up the license.

Disney?
Warner Brothers?
Someone else....

*neatoman* · 01-30-2017, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

While I doubt this is the case, I'm curious how things would be now if someone other than Nick had picked up the license.

Disney?
Warner Brothers?
Someone else....

Well if Disney or Warner Brothers got to TMNT, then TMNT comics would probably be a neglected aspect of Marvel or DC. Fox or Universal, maybe even Sony?

*myconius* · 02-16-2017, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by neatoman

Well if Disney or Warner Brothers got to TMNT, then TMNT comics would probably be a neglected aspect of Marvel or DC. Fox or Universal, maybe even Sony?

thank goodness it wasn't picked up by Warner or Disney.

from a comics standpoint it would have been a total disaster!

*CyberCubed* · 01-30-2017, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

While I doubt this is the case, I'm curious how things would be now if someone other than Nick had picked up the license.

Disney?
Warner Brothers?
Someone else....

WB and Disney both could have bought the license, Nick offered them the highest money and were interested. I'm sure Mirage would have sold to Disney if they were interested back in 2009 and/or offered more than the $60 million Nick did for the franchise.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 01-30-2017, 12:54 PM

Disney would probably give the TMNT franchise more publicity, but I don't think it's worth that.

*Sabacooza* · 01-30-2017, 07:00 PM

Nick will also most likely sit on it after it becomes non profitable so we only delayed the inevitable. I hope I'm wrong though.

*Coola Yagami* · 01-30-2017, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabacooza

Nick will also most likely sit on it after it becomes non profitable so we only delayed the inevitable. I hope I'm wrong though.

Oh we can always count on a TMNT All Grown Up sequel or a crossover with Jimmy Neutron or whatever to pull then out of the vault every few years.

01-30-2017, 08:30 AM	#1
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,155	If Nickelodeon never bought TMNT When Nickelodeon bought the TMNT-franchise in October 2009, the 2003–2009 animated TV-series was over, and Turtles Forever had aired. But what would we have if they never did? Would we now have two films, IDW comics and the 2012 cartoon? Something else, or nothing new at all? Last edited by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan; 01-30-2017 at 09:11 AM.

01-30-2017, 08:42 AM	#2
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,088	I for one am glad with what the buyout has given us, especially the return of not just Kevin Eastman's presence in the franchise but wonderful talents like Rob Paulsen. I'm sure it was a tough decision for Peter Laird to make, and I'm willing to bet he spent many countless nights debating whether or not it would be a good idea. I wish people would just get over the fact that Mirage no longer holds the rights to TMNT. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988 www.jephael.com

01-30-2017, 10:00 AM	#4
Wesley Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Republic of Ireland Posts: 1,589	I'd say we wouldn't have got anything new if Nickelodeon never bought TMNT. Peter Laird had grown tired of it and wanted to move on. __________________ Donatello: The tracker! It might work. Donatello goes to the back of the Turtle Van Raphael: Shrewd move, Donatello. If we ignore the problem, it might go away by itself. (from The Mean Machines)

01-30-2017, 11:24 AM	#9
Roseangelo Emperor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 8,979	The franchise was dead in the water when Nickelodeon bought it. __________________ www.ninjapizza.net www.colorsbyrosemary.com

01-30-2017, 11:29 AM	#10
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,057	The TMNT franchise as a whole would be like the current state of Mirage comics from PL....non-existent. IDW would have never gotten the license if not for Nick, so we would have no new comics now either.

01-30-2017, 11:44 AM	#12
Sabacooza Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,986	If Nickelodeon wouldn't have bought TMNT, I would've been so happy. However, we wouldn't have gotten the IDW comics and I do love those. We probably would've gotten a better live action movie as well.

01-30-2017, 12:54 PM	#18
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,155	Disney would probably give the TMNT franchise more publicity, but I don't think it's worth that.

01-30-2017, 07:00 PM	#19
Sabacooza Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,986	Nick will also most likely sit on it after it becomes non profitable so we only delayed the inevitable. I hope I'm wrong though.