Thoughts on Pete's Status/Hiatus

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I don't see Peter ending it on such a happy note as that.

How do you think it would end? Or does that tread too far into spoiler territory (whether for Odyssey or a future Volume 4 conclusion)?

[Powder]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

all Pete did was veto some designs for the Turtles

I wanna see those, are they out there?

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

not saying anything about the previous 15 or so (considerably more horrid) incarnations of the 4th movie he was actively shooting down.

Same for this, any insight? Would love to hear about 'em.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Considering how much he has done for TMNT, and everything he's given us fans, Mr. Laird has earned his rest. With the awesomeness of IDW (my favvorite version of TMNT of all time) and the Nick series going strong, the turtles are in good hands for the moment. He owes us nothing, and Peter can relax and stay far away from TMNT for as long as he chooses to do so.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

Considering how much he has done for TMNT, and everything he's given us fans, Mr. Laird has earned his rest. With the awesomeness of IDW (my favvorite version of TMNT of all time) and the Nick series going strong, the turtles are in good hands for the moment. He owes us nothing, and Peter can relax and stay far away from TMNT for as long as he chooses to do so.

Well the point is he's also 60 years old now. I doubt he's going to bother writing comics when he's 70, so if he doesn't return to Volume 4 in the next 5 or so years then he never will.

[freakdylan]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Well the point is he's also 60 years old now. I doubt he's going to bother writing comics when he's 70, so if he doesn't return to Volume 4 in the next 5 or so years then he never will.

Oh never say never he could lose all his money on Fanduel and be forced to return simply for the money.

[myconius]

Originally Posted by freakdylan

Oh never say never he could lose all his money on Fanduel and be forced to return simply for the money.

you make a valid point there.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Well the point is he's also 60 years old now. I doubt he's going to bother writing comics when he's 70, so if he doesn't return to Volume 4 in the next 5 or so years then he never will.

If he's doesn't ever want to come back, that's his business. He and Eastman gave us turtles, and that's good enough for me!

[freakdylan]

Originally Posted by myconius

you make a valid point there.

Wouldnt be the first time an artist returned simply for the need for money.

Oh and Hey, lol

[myconius]

Originally Posted by freakdylan

Wouldnt be the first time an artist returned simply for the need for money.

Oh and Hey, lol

i didn't know you were on here???
small world!

i really wish Peter the Best in his retirement. i'm sure all of the hustling and bustling he's done keeping the franchise going before he sold it has severly burned him out!!

but it would be awesome if one day he felt a surge of inspiration to just crank out just a few more issues to quickly wrap it up the way that volume 2 quickly came to a conclusion.

or gave the blessing to Jim Lawson to tie up the loose ends?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

How do you think it would end? Or does that tread too far into spoiler territory (whether for Odyssey or a future Volume 4 conclusion)?

Like I said, I don't think it'd end too happily. Mikey maybe in self-imposed exile somewhere in space or just drifting (and no, I don't think those eggs are his kids, and I think that revelation coupled with the bloodshed he's partaken in will drive him into such), Don finally moving to Japan to live in isolation there with his "Chet" computer AI as seen in Plastron Cafe. Leonardo moving to his treehouse. Raphael hitting the bayou. I want to say I think the Splinter in the Battle Nexus is either lying or not entirely what he appears (I think the fur Donatello clipped from Dead Splinter will be cross-analyzed against some older Splinter DNA and it will match, or something, cementing that Real Splinter actually did die)... and may have to be killed by one of the Turtles (the future glimpse now finally being wholly realized from TMNT Vol. 2, #1). That could also be what spurs the more permanent separation of the Turtles... that they have to kill Splinter (maybe one or more of them didn't believe Donatello or whoever ends up killing him, that they thought it was the real deal or was better than No Splinter At All, who knows). There's nothing in the future glimpses of the Turtles that suggests any kind of Splinter sticks around much more into the future than this. And another poster might be right about the Karai in their world might actually be the Battle Nexus Karai... but then that begs the question of where the real Karai is. Maybe this ties into the people vanishing... maybe switcheroos across the world are happening en masse and the Turtles have to stop it (maybe some villain in the Battle Nexus is up to no good, causing this). I want to think April gets her head right and comes back to Casey, but I think a more "not quite happy ending" would be her doing so, him fessing up to his probably having sex with Karai (or worse yet, Karai comes to them both proclaiming to be pregnant with his kid), and them kind of in a gray spot unsure of their future together. Shadow maybe taking some time with Leonardo in his tree house, setting up her ninja training?

I think something like this would be what Peter would arrive at, just based on his long term setups and the way he generally ends things. But I have no idea.

[Powder]

Man, that sounds cool as hell. Very plausible. The way you've connected Battle Nexus Splinter with Vol. 2, it makes perfect sense, you blew my mind, yo.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I honestly doubted Pete or anyone would ever follow up on Donnie's Vol 2 vision... that would be awesome, though.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I honestly doubted Pete or anyone would ever follow up on Donnie's Vol 2 vision... that would be awesome, though.

Why not? He's the one that wrote it. And the other ones came true.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Why not? He's the one that wrote it. And the other ones came true.

Considering how long it has taken for any follow up? Until we saw that Splinter was cloned/alive in #32, yeah.

Sorry, man. I lost ALL faith in Mirage's storytelling.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Why not? He's the one that wrote it. And the other ones came true.

I thought it was Lawson not Laird who wrote volume 2.

[myconius]

Originally Posted by Xav

I thought it was Lawson not Laird who wrote volume 2.

yeah, Lawson wrote and penciled volume 2.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Xav

I thought it was Lawson not Laird who wrote volume 2.

Originally Posted by myconius

yeah, Lawson wrote and penciled volume 2.

Well, yes and no. But mostly no. Peter would write up what is happening on every page, like a play-by-play detailed synopsis, and Jim would take that and do the dialogue and captions (which is a very strange way to write, but that seemed to work for them).

[Leo656]

That doesn't seem so unusual. I see lots of comics that have separate credits for, like, "Plotted By" and "Scripted By" and I always figured that in at least some cases it works sort of like that. Like one person would give the basic play-by-play and the other one would work the details.

[myconius]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Well, yes and no. But mostly no. Peter would write up what is happening on every page, like a play-by-play detailed synopsis, and Jim would take that and do the dialogue and captions (which is a very strange way to write, but that seemed to work for them).

ahhhh! very interesting!

i had NO idea that was the case.

mirage comics are very ambiguous as to who exactly did what?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Leo656

That doesn't seem so unusual.

Maybe it's the creative control freak in me as a writer, and I've read a lot of comic book scripts (there is actually no one "template" for comic book scripts... it's all over the map, but it's generally not this... I mean, compare a Grant Morrison script to like a Geoff Johns script or something, or even old timers like John Byrne or so... there's form differences, but it's all there, the specific dialogue, stage direction, etc.). I pretty much want to dictate every word and every nuance, beyond things like design and artistic liberty, and it seems weird to me that writers wouldn't want that. Though I believe when Jim would write up his "rough draft" of a given issue's blurbs and all that from Laird's synopsis, Laird would come back with notes and changes and such before he'd officially sign off on it.

Though it's great that Laird had that much creative trust in Lawson to allow him the leeway he did. I don't think he'd trust anyone else with that. Not Berger or any of those cats beyond maybe Eastman himself.