01-17-2019, 01:10 PM | #341 |
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My hopes for this movie:
- Turtles who are not just archetypes but real characters; characters who have layers (like real people) and arcs that have payoff. Mikey for example -- should be more than just "The funny one". I want to see a Mikey who uses humor as a facade/coping mechanism to dangerous situations and the grim prospects of life as a mutant living under a sewer. - A relatively serious tone. It's time for the TMNT to stop being treated like a kiddie property that can only appeal to the lowest common denominator in 7 year olds. We need a movie that explores mature themes like family/brotherhood, isolation, loneliness and growing up. There is sooo much more to the TMNT than just fart jokes and Pepperoni pizza and "Cowabunga, dude!!!!" When will modern Hollywood execs realize this? The tone should be a cross between "The Winter Soldier" and "Bumblebee". Moody and serious atmosphere but with fun. Basically IDW TMNT - Turtles that look like teenagers and not 12 ft Hulks with shells: I'd like to see them do a Spider-Man: Homecoming approach to the way the Turtles are presented. In the first movie, they are smaller - being young teenagers but they grow up throughout the trilogy. We see their physical growth as well as growth as a team and as heroes. - Martial Arts like "The Raid". This is what was promised to us by the PD producers in the early stages of development for the Bay film. I'd like to see them follow through with it.
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01-17-2019, 01:28 PM | #342 |
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Totally agree with you.
I mean, I don't mind some older looking/seeming Turtles, I'd love to see a little more of that done (or at least gotten back to the maturity pre-Nick shows), but if you're going to make them look 25 or 30, yeah... then drop the "teenage" part from the title. Otherwise, don't make them look quite so grown. Because I'm sorry, PD, but no way are those guys actually teens! (And if they were then they probably aren't even fully grown?? Yikes.) The concept art certainly had one or two deigns that were clearly the basis of what we got (one of which is still my desktop wallpaper) and would have been perfect as is...and then I guess they decided bigger is better. (Not that I didn't come to love Leo anyhow, but 6'5" and that bulky is still a bit much...) Can someone tell or link to me what "the raid" mentions are in reference to? I do remember that being something brought up back when they were making it, but not quite sure what it meant. |
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I never understand the people that want so badly for the TMNT to behave like normal human teenagers. They're not that. They wouldn't. Stop wanting that.
The people obsessing about that are like one step removed from the sickos who seemingly get off on pint-sized Turtles or "Turtle Tots," ala "Half Shelled Heroes" or whatever.
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I actually think it would be really cool if they got real teenagers to play the Turtles. Sort of like what Marvel did with Spider-Man. Get people in late teens-early 20s to do the mocap. You can't get much more authentic than having the real thing. A coming of age story in vein of 'Perks of Being a Wallflower" about acceptance would fit the TMNT nicely.
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I just kinda figured people like the chance to see them as little kids at least just once in an iteration because it's adorable...? Much like seeing someone's childhood family pics? (Is that weird too for some reason?)
To jump to conclusions that people get off on it... Ew. I mean maybe there are a few weirdos like that out there, but can't say I've ever noticed any vibes like that from anyone. I mean, personally I wish to see them lean a bit older now a little more frequently (and Nick really making me miss the way they were in 2003 and whatnot), but I don't assume anyone who prefers Nick's younger takes on them as being for any weird reason. And some younger fans might just wish for them to be more relatable? (edit: While at the same time, being older now I guess is probably also part of why I'd also love to see them depicted a little older now and then too.) Quote:
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01-17-2019, 04:26 PM | #348 |
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2k3 struck my preferred balance of adolescent maturity. Well, 3/4 anyways. Lookin' at you, Mikey.
Too much grit and you risk turning into another DCEU. Not saying it can't be done - just saying long term I think i'd burn out on that much dreary angst. |
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But the Turtles are indeed much more serious in the Laird/Eastman run. Mikey is nowhere near the goof he became in later incarnations. I'd like the TMNT to start off a bit more naive and optimistic and end closer to the way they were in the first 5 issues of Mirage.
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Even in Mirage, the turtles act like teenagers, at times. Of course they aren't "normal" teenagers, but what does it mean to be a teen other than sometimes acting a little goofy, losing your temper, or being a bit impressionable?
The turtles definitely display aspects of their youth in all renditions of TMNT. It's a tale of a revenge, but it's also a coming-of-age story. And yeah, it's in the frickin name. I love me some adult turtles, such as we see in City at War, but if anyone is planning to make a trilogy of movies or any other long -form story, then yeah, it would be a good idea to start them off with some immaturity, which gives them room for growth. It's also great to see the turtles being impressionable in regards to the world above ground. I always loved the aspect of the turtles seeing **** on television or hearing lingo through the stormgrates, that they are keen to pick up on. It highlights their isolation and desire to fit into a world they can never be a part of. I don't think them being teenagers has to equal fart jokes and pepperoni pizza. It can mean brash attitude and creepy grins while cracking skulls. The paradox of them being loveable & fun, yet dangerous as hell is one of the best aspects of TMNT in my mind. |
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Fair enough but do you ever get the feeling that Mirage tmnt volume 4 will never get a conclusion?
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TMNT 1-4 were all PG, and the two PD movies hardly tested the boundaries of their PG-13 ratings.
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Not sure if that was directed at me, but I wrote a lot of things I want to see, and ONE small line about Megan Fox. I'm not harping, you are. She was terrible, and if they want these movies to achieve any sort of success, the living breathing human characters need to be excellent actors. I don't want "ok" actors. I want real actors. I want this movie to be treated the same as Batman Begins was.
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01-18-2019, 11:15 PM | #360 |
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I know it would be impossible but with other franchises making sequels instead of reboots (like Ghostbusters) what if instead of a reboot they just make a TMNT 4 (or 5 if you want to iclude the imagi films) and it could be Shredder's resurrection and we get the City at War movie.
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