03-06-2017, 09:53 PM | #1 |
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When do you estimate the next TMNT movie will be?
With a new show on the horizon, I'm thinking there could be a new movie coming up as well. What do you guys think?
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03-06-2017, 09:57 PM | #2 |
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nah after how much of a box office failure OOTS was I think TMNT movies are on the shelf for a while.
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03-06-2017, 10:07 PM | #3 |
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2 1/2 year moratorium. Then about that time we'll start hearing rumblings about Paramount hiring some production studio. 2 years after that we'll see it (or you guys will, at least). 4 1/2 years, I wager.
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03-06-2017, 10:30 PM | #4 |
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Well with the new cartoon coming in 2018, I imagine they would want to time it during that year to announce and release in 2019.
Based on the no break, just keep rebooting spectrum. Now I feel like the platinum dunes movies had unused potential to crossover with transformers + GI Joe, but now that is dead. I hope a they can either focus on animated movies or just get a director who wants the dark gritty Judge Dredd or Sin City vibe. Hell, I'll even accept a netflix only series. |
03-06-2017, 10:42 PM | #5 |
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2-5 years easily. Andrew's probably on the money.
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03-06-2017, 11:32 PM | #6 |
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A long time. Relaunching a movie franchise is a lot harder than a cartoon, and Paramount won't want to take another loss. They'll be a lot more conservative before they greenlit another movie.
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03-07-2017, 05:30 AM | #7 |
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2022 is my prediction, as long as the new cartoon succeeds.
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03-07-2017, 06:44 AM | #8 |
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Hopefully never. But probably 2020 or shortly after.
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03-07-2017, 07:19 AM | #9 |
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They have a moneymaker in their hands, they won't let it sit for too long now.
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03-07-2017, 10:50 AM | #10 |
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I am going to guess sometime in the 2020s, probably towards the middle, and that's not counting any Made for DVD films, though I don't imagine those happening either.
I'd say that if a film happens sooner, either in 2019 or the early 2020s, it will probably be Paramount attempting a third film or loose reboot of the PD Turtles. That doesn't seem probable at this point either, but it's still possible. Paramount doesn't have a whole lot of useful IPs at the moment. TMNT just bombed. Their attempt to take claim of the Terminator franchise blew up in their face (making it the third time someone has tried to reboot the series and promising more films with no success). The Ring reboot didn't do much. They lost the distribution for any new Indiana Jones films. The GI: Joe franchise wasn't very good and we haven't seen an entry in years and it seems like the only saving grace is a film linked to Transformers. They are doing nothing with Friday the 13th and while before Star Trek Beyond was released, there was talk of another film, they've been quite silent on it. So, they Transformers (ugh!) and Mission: Impossible. Brand name IPs is a big deal for studios these days. Disney does it well. Universal and Warner Bros. are kind of okay with it. Fox and Paramount stumble quite a bit. |
03-07-2017, 11:09 AM | #11 |
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With the new show starting in 2018 and if it does well, I would say we could get a reboot movie between 2020 and 2022.
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Yup, I'd bet money on that timeframe
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C'mon, never say never! A good TMNT movie really shouldn't be that hard to do. But like others said, I'd be totally down with an adult-oriented miniseries, either live action or animated. I never understood why they keep gearing this property towards children, the Turtles are teenagers for Christ's sake. Teenagers are on the cusp of becoming adults, that's literally their whole deal. Teenagers are not usually the kind of people you want children exposed to in large doses or without adult supervision How's that Riverdale series?
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03-07-2017, 03:13 PM | #13 |
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The success or failure of a new cartoon will have 0 bearing on them making a new movie.
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03-15-2017, 12:53 AM | #14 |
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The 2nd movies didn't loose money people. I see that it is estimated to made over 100 million dollars worldwide over budget.
I mean it wasn't nearly as successful as the 1st Bay movie, but lets not kid ourselves here. The movie made money, just not greedy money. |
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03-15-2017, 10:20 AM | #16 |
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Hmm, doesn't a "budget" imply salaries, advertising etc?
I mean how does 100 million difference in budget to revenue just vanish? What am I missing? |
03-15-2017, 10:38 AM | #17 | |
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There's a production budget, which is always publicized, and marketing budget. For whatever reason, you rarely hear about the marketing budget unless they're doing some big super bowl ad or something outlandish.
Viacom's CEO even admitted that it bombed, and lumped it in with Zoolander 2: Quote:
Source: http://www.latimes.com/business/holl...story,amp.html Last edited by ToTheNines; 03-15-2017 at 10:49 AM. |
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03-15-2017, 10:44 AM | #18 |
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Right, but the marketing budget for this movie wasn't 100 million.
They made money on the 2nd movie. I hate that people act like it "bombed" and all this. Yeah it underperformed. It still made money. |
03-15-2017, 10:49 AM | #19 |
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Check my edited post.
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03-15-2017, 11:05 AM | #20 |
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Production budget was $135 million
Worldwide box office was $246 million. The studio gets roughly half of that - $123 million. That's already a $12 million loss without accounting for the marketing budget. Marketing isn't included in the production budget. The movie bombed. |
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