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Old 05-13-2017, 08:56 PM   #61
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I think one would be useful for me. If I get stressed, my hands need something to do. Playdoh is my current go-to... have a jar at my desk.
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Old 05-13-2017, 10:14 PM   #62
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This is one of the reasons I picked up knitting.
Bonus: being stressed means more hats.
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A lot just get older and older and angrier and angrier, all the while waiting for the world to bend to their whim, never, ever really being satisfied with any of the "victories" achieved at large and wondering why no one outside of whatever construct bubble they've placed themself [sic] (look, I did it!) in wants to mess with them.
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Old 05-14-2017, 07:02 AM   #63
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I think it would be fine for stress relief if it calms someone down, but my issue is that they say it will help people focus better and I just don't see it.

Ah, Pogs. I remember those too.
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Old 05-14-2017, 11:04 AM   #64
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Not seeing how this can be a 4 page thread. They're cool, they spin, go buy one, thread locked, case closed.
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:39 PM   #65
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What, you don't know what fidget toys are for? Anxiety, ADHD, autism, among other conditions
I don't understand this logic.

"How could the average person not know this thing the average person doesn't have a reason to know?"

I never heard a single thing about these until today when I saw 4 different articles about them. And one was about how the jury is still out on these being scientifically beneficial.
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:00 PM   #66
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There's no research for this stuff. The percentage of people that would ACTUALLY need these is extremely small.
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Old 05-20-2017, 12:47 AM   #67
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I don't understand this logic.

"How could the average person not know this thing the average person doesn't have a reason to know?"
Because I thought it was common knowledge
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Old 05-20-2017, 03:44 AM   #68
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There's no research for this stuff. The percentage of people that would ACTUALLY need these is extremely small.
Fidgeting have been shown to work.
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Old 05-20-2017, 08:07 AM   #69
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I don't buy this as an actual tool. Seems to me it would be more distracting than being able to get someone to focus.
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Again:

If you're distracted by them, then you're not who they were designed for.

As for whether or not they're effective? They're use reminds me of an interview with Jim Carrey around the time of "When the Grinch Stole Christmas," where they brought in a specialist in resisting torture to help the actor with his heavy prosthetic makeup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXAv8RXmsrc
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Old 05-20-2017, 11:17 AM   #71
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Fine, it's not designed for most people. But when the people it was designed for use it, it affects the people around them, which are most likely students trying to pay attention to the lesson.
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Old 05-20-2017, 11:31 AM   #72
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I don't think that's the case here.
I think it's a case of a productivity tool for a minority of folks becoming a novelty toy for the majority of folks.

Fidgets and other stim tools have been around for a long time, and are only now becoming an issue because people who don't need them want them...and then misuse them.

Which sucks for the folks whose ability to concentrate and not be distracted is actually improved by them.
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Old 05-20-2017, 11:41 AM   #73
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You're right, I see your point.
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Old 05-20-2017, 01:30 PM   #74
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http://time.com/money/4774133/fidget...nxiety-stress/

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Some experts do believe that so-called "fidgets" — silent, unimposing toys like squeezey balls or textured items like puddy — can provide some children with an outlet for brain stimulation to counteract hyperactivity in the classroom. But, says Anderson, “the distinction between those interventions and [fidget spinners] is that those interventions allow the child to move, but this particular intervention isn’t necessarily letting the child get their wiggles out, but rather play with a toy."

“Fidget spinners are giving fidgets a bad name," says Elaine Taylor-Klaus, co-founder of ImpactADHD, a coaching service that helps parents with children who have ADHD.

Dr. Mark Stein, director of ADHD and related disorders at the Seattle Children's Hospital and professor at the University of Washington, says fidget spinners should not overtake proven methods of treating the condition. “My worry is that they’re very much a distraction, not only to the child, but it distracts people from doing something that we know works,” Stein says.“It is worrisome that business is entering this area,” Stein adds. “Families with children with neurodevelopmental disorders are vulnerable and want to do everything they can do to help.”
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Old 05-20-2017, 03:32 PM   #75
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I don't think that's the case here.
I think it's a case of a productivity tool for a minority of folks becoming a novelty toy for the majority of folks.

Fidgets and other stim tools have been around for a long time, and are only now becoming an issue because people who don't need them want them...and then misuse them.

Which sucks for the folks whose ability to concentrate and not be distracted is actually improved by them.
This is exactly what's happening, thank you for putting it in words I didn't know how to tackle
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Old 05-21-2017, 01:25 AM   #76
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I've seen so so sooo many fads like this come and go. All I gotta say, snake and others who have to be in classrooms with these things... it will go away... uhh, maybe not as fast as you'd like, but yeah. It's a fad.

Yo-yos have had several resurgences. Seen those come and go a few times.

hacky sacks.

yeah, those slappable bracelet things (already mentioned)

Gel/silly bandz

Tamagotchi

Tech Decks

beybaldes

POGS!

Obviously there are thousands of examples, but not a lot are small and cheap and easily brought into the classroom. Those are a few examples.

My impression is fidget spinners are INTENDED to be something that is fairly quiet and to yourself, and used as a mental aid. But when people start getting them to do "tricks" and crazy stuff on desks or whatever it's not operating as intended and probably can be noisy.

I can only imagine though, I'm not a kid and don't even know any kids... never even seen a fidget spinner IRL. haha. Only youtube videos.
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omg I totally forgot that I used to bring my beyblades to school

I mean I did this with a lot of things, cards, tamagotchi, tech decks, but for some reason I always forget the beyblades. Saved up my lunch money for those.
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Old 05-22-2017, 02:28 AM   #78
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Saw my nephew at the weekend who showed me his new spinner.
Got to admit I couldn't put it down
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If you're distracted by them, then you're not who they were designed for.

As for whether or not they're effective? They're use reminds me of an interview with Jim Carrey around the time of "When the Grinch Stole Christmas," where they brought in a specialist in resisting torture to help the actor with his heavy prosthetic makeup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXAv8RXmsrc
I know they aren't designed for me. I meant it would seem more distracting to someone with ADD who can't focus properly on anything. My nephews are like that and I think this tool would be more distracting for them and not help them to focus on their work. That's what I was getting at.
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I know they aren't designed for me. I meant it would seem more distracting to someone with ADD who can't focus properly on anything. My nephews are like that and I think this tool would be more distracting for them and not help them to focus on their work. That's what I was getting at.
That's exactly it. Fidget spinners aren't great for people with ADHD because rather than giving them something to do while they focus on something else, all of their attention is devoted to the spinner. There are some studies that show that there is a benefit to letting children with ADHD move around/fidget at their desk during lessons, but not to excess. Some schools have had success with desks that have pedals the child can operate while they sit or with having the children sit on exercise balls.
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