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View Poll Results: Which Turtle Holds The Team Together?
Michaelangelo 7 28.00%
Donatello 3 12.00%
Leonardo 7 28.00%
Raphael 0 0%
It depends on the version 8 32.00%
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Old 06-18-2019, 08:28 AM   #1
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Who Holds The Team Together?

I read a listing article on CBR related to Donatello. It cites the 2003 episode " Same as it Never Was" that shows Donatello holds the four together. I always thought of Michelangelo as the heart of the team. Is it Mike? Don? One of the other two? Or does it depend upon the version?
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Old 06-18-2019, 08:35 AM   #2
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Though there would be arcs/eps over the versions showing each having qualities here I wouldn't really want to choose one over seeing it as more a team effort. I mean though I would lean towards Leo if I had to choose given his role/responsibility/rounded character, they all bring their own contributions/qualities which would contribute here.
2007 showed them all doing their own thing with Leo being absent, but that was just the story for that movie. I don't know what would happen there in other versions(including Splinter stepping to prevent that).

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Old 06-18-2019, 08:36 AM   #3
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Leonardo leads

Leonardo leads, so he has the ultimate responsibility. But Michelangelo may be the heart.
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Old 06-18-2019, 09:23 AM   #4
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I'd argue the loss of any one Turtle would devastate the team.

Except for Raph. They can get by without Raph.
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Old 06-18-2019, 05:43 PM   #5
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All of them in their own different ways really. Though on the average day I think it's Leo and Mikey the most. Leo in the physical sense, and Mikey in the emotional/family relationship angle.

Donnie on occasion where only he can save the day and his famliy via his skills and talents. Raph.... he's a tougher one, but he can step up when needed. Though I guess he also makes the others pull together by making them worry about him sometimes. lol



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I'd argue the loss of any one Turtle would devastate the team.

Except for Raph. They can get by without Raph.
lol Poor Raph.

I dunno, Mikey needs him as Raph is the one who understands (and enjoys interacting/hanging out with) him the most.

Leo needs Raph to keep him on his toes and be pushed to grow as a leader and oldest brother. And to be there to step up if Leo's knocked out of the game.

Donnie... Honestly, I'm not sure. It's kind of hard to even solidly define the relationship between him and Raph. Outside of Raph sometimes being portrayed as picking on him a little, going with the whole bully/nerd dynamic, it otherwise seems just kind of neutral. They exist together, but don't really seem to have as much of a connection.

Though Leo and Mikey are kind of like that too, so maybe it's just a case of the brothers who are the most different from each other.

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Old 06-18-2019, 05:59 PM   #6
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Well, if we're defining "holding the team together" as being effective in battle together, you could make a pretty good arguement for Donatello.

His inventions are so OP in many incarnations that not even the combined help of the remaining turtles, splinter and other allies can compare as being critical in winning the fight.
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The biggest villains were the censors.
What they could do without being held back is my question.
Shredder could've done more than blow up the Channel Six building.
I don't mean as far as murdering Splinter, but think of the possibilities if censors were not an issue.
Shredder and Krang combined had the biggest arsenal of any villains in all of the cartoons.
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Old 06-18-2019, 11:47 AM   #7
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Definitely depends on the version. I very much stand by Mike being the one who holds things together in IDW. Especially when things got really bad (like when Don was Mostly Dead). When Raph and Leo are the ones going at each other's throats, it's Mike who gets them to sit down, shut up, and calm down.

Which is probably the reason why in the "Too Many Technodromes Future", Leo made Mike the leader, and his response to not understand why he made such a big bellyache about leadership being a "burden".


In 2012, it was Leo. The whole dynamic crumbled when he left them on their own, especially while Raphael was trying his hand at leadership
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Old 06-18-2019, 02:22 PM   #8
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The biggest villains were the censors.
What they could do without being held back is my question.
Shredder could've done more than blow up the Channel Six building.
I don't mean as far as murdering Splinter, but think of the possibilities if censors were not an issue.
Shredder and Krang combined had the biggest arsenal of any villains in all of the cartoons.
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Old 06-18-2019, 02:31 PM   #9
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Splinter but barring that, Leonardo. It is literally his whole purpose.
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Old 06-18-2019, 02:50 PM   #10
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The human allies. (April, Casey Jones, ect.)
I'm going to assume that some of their mutant allies help to keep the Turtle brothers together.
Master Splinter.
Each of the Turtle bro's trying to keep some form of peace / compromise between each other.
Even the encounters / fights have kept the Turtles together.
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But when the turtles are on long-lasting missions without Splinter, it's up to Leonardo.
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But when the turtles are on long-lasting missions without Splinter, it's up to Leonardo.
Even when the turtles are out on their own, away from their master, his legacy still precedes over them.

Without his ideals having been taught to them in their younger years, they wouldn't be able to hold themselves as a team at all.
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The biggest villains were the censors.
What they could do without being held back is my question.
Shredder could've done more than blow up the Channel Six building.
I don't mean as far as murdering Splinter, but think of the possibilities if censors were not an issue.
Shredder and Krang combined had the biggest arsenal of any villains in all of the cartoons.
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Old 06-22-2019, 06:48 PM   #13
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Even when the turtles are out on their own, away from their master, his legacy still precedes over them.

Without his ideals having been taught to them in their younger years, they wouldn't be able to hold themselves as a team at all.
Yep. This.
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Old 06-18-2019, 04:11 PM   #14
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Like Cylons said, if any one of the turtles go missing it usually causes problems. Leo is there so they can focus on the task at hand, Raph is there to protect them, and Don is there to find a solution. But without Mikey to keep their spirits up they would all just go off and do their own thing, so my vote rests with him. It makes sense for him to be the heart of the team because he's probably the most emotionally intelligent.
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Old 06-18-2019, 04:40 PM   #15
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Turtles did okay in 2012 without Splinter, right?

Of course, as soon as Splinter passed in Mirage, the family split up... and Mikey STILL hasn't made it back to Earth.

In most iterations, Leo is the one who holds everything together.

When Mike split off from the family in IDW, it didn't ruin everything. Whereas Leo and Don getting brainwashed/shellshocked by the Foot DID. And everybody was fine without Raph's grumpy ass back in the very beginning.
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Yeah, it was pretty much just "I MISS RAPHAEL"
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Yeah, it was pretty much just "I MISS RAPHAEL"
When Raph runs off in Image, the others always forget him for awhile. Dude had time to take over the entire NYC Foot Clan while the other three were dealing with their own alien/cyborg sh!t in Chicago.
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I mean, yeah, it's kinda easy for things to slip with all that going on.
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Old 06-23-2019, 03:05 PM   #19
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Definitely Splinter.
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