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I mean, why didn't you just invest a lot in rugby? Did the sport never really catch on there? |
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05-23-2018, 06:13 PM | #22 |
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My theory is, Americans by and large seem to prefer "All-American" things... even if they're "borrowed" from elsewhere.
Baseball is "The National Pastime," but it's heavily based on Cricket, for example. And you've pointed out the football/Rugby association. We like to take things and "tweak" 'em until they're "Ours". Just how we are.
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It was time that this ridiculous kneeling stuff comes to an end. The country's national anthem deserve respect. This kind of "football" (yes, they use their hands mostly not their feet-- unlike one that is called "The Beautiful Game" and was invented by England) will be never be an Olympic sport, so they don't have any idea what is to face another country's team, and the winner stands on the podium fighting tears when he or she listens to his or her country national anthem. They are a bunch of rich crybabies. Except one NFL player who stood proudly for the USA national anthem. Why? Because was a war veteran who serve his country before playing the sport.
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They didn’t always play the national anthem at sporting events. It’s a fairly recent thing. Like really became prominent during Afghanistan campaigns.
To me, the players aren’t hurting anyone. They aren’t out there burning a flag or anything. Just kneeling. Maybe praying. I don’t find it any more offensive than someone kneeling around a flagpole on the National day of prayer. Hell, in my own office there are three bible study groups...men only! If the wanna kneel who cares. The nationa anthem has a decidedly racist stanza that we don’t normally sing, but it’s there. Let people express patriotism however feels best to them.
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Perhaps a solution could be proposed where immediately FOLLOWING the National Anthem, one minute of silence would be observed in which everyone could kneel, pray, whatever - as long as it was quiet and respectful.
That seems like a compromise that's more than fair. Nothing is being disrupted, nobody's "beliefs" or causes are being disrespected - everybody gets to do what they want to do, nobody gets hurt, and everyone gets their way. Everyone gets to make whatever personal "statement" they want, and then, after a short 60 seconds, everyone moves the f*ck on with the actual reason they're there in the first place - a bunch of guys crashing into each other for 8 seconds, before somebody blows a whistle and they all stand in a circle watching replays for 20 minutes. Just seems like the only reasonable thing to do. But then, most of those pesky "actual solutions" require some kind of compromise, and people don't really like to do that right now. I'd support that. Some of those people definitely could use the exercise. No kiddin'.
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The argument against this is literally no different than me saying, "Wtf with the rainbow bandannas on TMNT! So stupid they're rolling with the kiddy shill to appease little kids and nostalgiacs!" While (I feel) true... it's a corporate entity and they can just do whatever because they paid 63 million dollars to do so and the only guy who had the power to say "no" said "yes." Buying toys 20 years ago didn't give us some kind of strange shareholder advantage or anything, it gave us squat. Equally stupid as the people fervently against this: the people against "Rise of the TMNT."
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Exactly! I mean our national anthem (the music) is borrowed from an old popular English pub song isn’t it? |
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Yup.
With the lyrics taken from a poem about how even the author was surprised we were still standing after a seemingly Superior onslaught. And we only drive on the right side of the road because the British drive on the left. That said, that this entire charade is being characterized as patriotic is laughable. Kind of curious about what the Venn diagram for people who cry censorship when one of the major Comic companies pulls a cover from a book, and people who are in support of the NFL right now would look like.
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Yeah, I don't think there WAS any loss in profits.
This is political, and dangerous. The current administration is saying that anyone who doesn't stand for the song of our country shouldn't be in our country...that's dangerous. Those aren't American values.
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I do agree that it is also political though and the current administrations stance is dangerous.
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So anyone without legs, or who is disabled... oh wait, we already know what Trump's view on those demographics are already, so would come as no surprise
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Pretty sure there was. I know tons of people IRL who refused to watch Seahawks games here last season as a result of a lot of the taking knee business. Even them not letting their kids watch the games either, and the kids being mad about it. It was a thing. I'm also pretty sure Papa John didn't get himself thrown out as CEO of Papa John's by screaming about profits being down if they weren't. That... really wouldn't make any sense at all.
https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/n...tings-decline/ I mean what, are we to assume they're lying here? For what purpose?
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I think national anthems work best during games between national teams.
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I think streaming definitely is an additional cause for loss of tv ratings (3rd variable) But I still think the main/biggest reason is the protest.
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