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just cause it makes money doesn't make it good.
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It may interest some in this thread to know that an MRA group has made a Supercut of this movie which removes all the female characters.
So should they get an itch to rewatch it, they can shave 45 minutes off the run time with that version.
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Just watch them complain about being unable to get dates with a straight face. I'm not surprised by how thin-skinned they are, nor am I surprised they'd do that, but still...wow.
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Well, even those who didn't like it didn't know that until they raced out to see it, I suppose the success of this will be determined by how fast people race out to see the next one ... is it 2 years again? Still, besides the people who really hated this one and have washed their hands of it I can still see many (who weren't too keen maybe) going to see the next even out of curiosity to see where they go with the story.
Edit: wait, just looking at the post above (got in before mine), I thought Plaston's post was a joke? Last edited by newfan; 01-16-2018 at 09:31 AM. |
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You're kidding...
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01-16-2018, 09:45 AM | #1227 | ||
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Oh no, that's the thing that's been done.
I like to think of myself as funny and clever on occasion, but even I'm not so good as to be able to write something that hysterically funny. https://twitter.com/BBW_BFF/status/953106797878960128 https://www.pedestrian.tv/entertainm...an-edit-women/ Full disclosure, this could be satire. But if it is, it rings really highly on the Poe Scale.
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I do think Plastron isn't joking, people have taken it to themselves to make it political as to why they might not like the new Star Wars. Blaming racism in China is dumb, Rogue One didn't perform well either, the Chinese market is weird and Hollywood doesn't understand it yet. Are they racists? Sure, but what nation doesn't bully the minorities of said nation? You can find that everywhere, no reason to demonize the culture.
I didn't like the movie. I didn't like TFA, I was clearly alone with that sentiment when the movie was released and it took over a year for people to start agreeing with me. This movie people are fairly evenly split 50/50 and yet the ones who like it keep trying to come up with excuses as to why "most people like it" and it's only a "minority" that dislike it. Why? If you like it cool but why lie to yourself and lie to others to make them think that "everyone" loves it. |
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add to that all the feminist click bait articles.. first ghostbusters, then Supergirl, now star wars, nothing is safe. that being said, the very NOTION of a Mens Rights Activist organization is stupid as hell. I prefer a more No'Maam approach. protecting guys rights to be guys. ;o)... Having so many women in it isn't the problem. it's how those women and men around them are WRITTEN that is the problem. I'd love to see Timothy Zahn re write these movies with totally different scenarios, but using the exact same characters, and I Bet you the movie would be awesome. |
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I can't help but wonder how little one is paying attention to the media they're ingesting to not see the liberal political leanings inherent in the plot of the original trilogy.
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Let’s Face It, You Hate The Last Jedi Because You Hate Women Star Wars: The Last Jedi Offers the Harsh Condemnation of Mansplaining We Need in 2017 Alt-Right Group Takes Credit for ‘The Last Jedi’ Backlash, Bashes ‘Star Wars’ For Including More Women [Later Proven False] [apologists double down on it] [Proven False Again] We Need to Talk About the Sexist Backlash Against Rey (Again), and Why She’s Awesome |
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I see that as a wholly different argument than the one vagita is trying to make.
Meta criticism has always existed, and will always exist. The internet is the fabulous place where any argument can be made, which doesn't necessarily mean that every argument should be made, or that every argument is equal to every other. The internet just tricks some people into believing that all opinions are created equal. That said, our popular culture does not exist in a vacuum. It says things about us in the stories that it tells. And I believe there is some worth to parsing out the threads of those stories to uncover more truths about the world we live in. But then, I'm an anthropologist.
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the very fact that you didn't even notice what the movie was trying to do until it was pointed out shows we 'haters' aren't that far off the track on things.. the fact that some people don't like that point proven is their problem IMHO. those very same articles you linked are ALL a part of the larger problem. 'nu fans' or click baiters, trying to bring their world into the world of nerds and ruining it for everyone else. when this movie is done, they'll move on to the next one to try and bring their level of hate into that fandom. the women in the movie arn't the problem. it's how those women and men around them are written that is the problem. |
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The world ain't your safe space, my dude.
And neither is fandom.
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Go away, Vegita-san. It's hard to believe this guy is 40 years old too.
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It's worse than Plastron is making it sound. It doesn't shave forty five minutes off, the entire cut is forty five minutes. In order to make it a "man friendly movie", they cut anything that made women look good or had them in a position where they accomplished things, meaning they had to cut an hour and a half of the movie. It sounds like incoherent nonsense where they had to edit things so Poe seems to be the one doing the Holdo maneuver. They had to axe so much I don't get why they even bothered, except to prove some nebulous point.
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I feel like Lucas never talked in any real depth about the series, but his intentions were pretty clear with the "politics" of his six.
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Did Vegita-San help make this since he has a Impotent slap fight on women?
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cue off the ignore list for a second, and there is the point many seem to miss.just to try and prove THEIR point.
If you pay attention to my posts.. I don't have a problem with women in movies. I have a problem with how women and the men around them are PORTRAYED in certain movies. and the press that surrounds those movies. and how the people who write these movies react to things. and all the blasted click bait articles trying to anger people about these movies. I'll re explain this 10 pages down for those who choose to ignore this. |
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