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Old 11-02-2016, 11:08 AM   #121
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I'm wondering, who says that Bebop and Rocksteady have to be stupid and goofy like the OT or used for mere dumb muscle?
Well keep in mind these two are basically Juggernauts so the Turtles have to do something in order to beat and seeing how the Turtles are ninjas(albiet very strong/skilled ninjas compared to the generic foot fodder) so their only way in defeating Bebop and Rocksteady is to outsmart them.
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Old 11-02-2016, 11:09 AM   #122
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Well keep in mind these two are basically Juggernauts so the Turtles have to do something in order to beat and seeing how the Turtles are ninjas(albiet very strong/skilled ninjas compared to the generic foot fodder) so their only way in defeating Bebop and Rocksteady is to outsmart them.
Not hardly. They basically just need to barely dodge some of their laser blasts and just wait for them to get tangled up in some cord or something and knock themselves out.
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Old 11-02-2016, 11:17 AM   #123
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Not hardly. They basically just need to barely dodge some of their laser blasts and just wait for them to get tangled up in some cord or something and knock themselves out.
Well I'm mostly thinking of the IDW version of Bebop and Rocksteady in which while they were stupid they were also dangerous and could be lethal if you one would underestimate them.

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Dogpound and Fishface were initially this, especially based on how good they fought as Chris and Xever, but then they got weakened and rendered useless.
As for Bradford and Xever I prefer if they were human especially for Xever since his fightscenes weren't as impressive after he was mutated.
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I think everyone has to agree that IDW Bebop and Rocksteady are the only versions of the character that should translate to film. Yes, they're stupid. But they're behemoths of destruction, murderous rampaging juggernauts.

They've:
  • Fought to a standstill with the Turtles, April, and Splinter ("City Fall")
  • Fought (and nearly beaten) the combined might of the Turtles and Splinter, the Mutanimals, and Alopex and Nobody ("New Mutant Order")
  • Killed Donatello* ("Attack on Technodrome")
  • Destroyed entire universes through time travel and kicked the crap out of Savanti Romero ("Bebop and Rocksteady Destroy Everything")
They're stupid and they're almost unbeatable. Tell me you wouldn't pay to see those characters in a WELL WRITTEN and COMIC ACCURATE movie.

*for all practical intents and purposes
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Old 11-02-2016, 11:36 AM   #125
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They're stupid and they're almost unbeatable. Tell me you wouldn't pay to see those characters in a WELL WRITTEN and COMIC ACCURATE movie.
Really not interested in seeing them at all. And just having them be hired by legit characters (Karai, etc.) makes those characters dumb by design.
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Old 11-02-2016, 12:24 PM   #126
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(I promised I wouldn't make my own posts over here, but I think commenting is fine...)

Just adapt IDW for a TMNT film, all of it. IDW's takes on the characters work. It's nostalgia pandering done right, with all OT characters being overhauled to a point all OT flaws are gone. USE IDW Bebop and Rocksteady, they are lethal killing machines you barely survive in a battle, and have to be outsmarted. All of hatred and arguments against the IDW versions I've seen so far is simple bias against the OT versions, which has absolutely ZERO in common with the competence level and seriousness of the IDW versions.
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Old 11-02-2016, 12:29 PM   #127
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It's nostalgia pandering
There's been more than enough of that so far.
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Old 11-02-2016, 12:30 PM   #128
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(I promised I wouldn't make my own posts over here, but I think commenting is fine...)

Just adapt IDW for a TMNT film, all of it. IDW's takes on the characters work. It's nostalgia pandering done right, with all OT characters being overhauled to a point all OT flwas are gone. USE IDW Bebop and Rocksteady, they are lethal killing machines you barely survive in a battle, and have to be outsmarted. All of hatred and arguments against the IDW versions I've seen so far is simple bias against the OT versions, which has absolutely ZERO in common with the competence level and seriousness of the IDW versions.
Dude, nobody wants to silence you. We don't even want you to stop sharing your own ideas; just create a one-time "Panda Fan Fic Ideas" or "Panda Improves the PD Universe" thread and keep posting there. Sorry for jumping down your throat on the previous thread.

And I absolutely agree with your bolded statement. The whole post, but ESPECIALLY that bolded statement.
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Old 11-02-2016, 12:53 PM   #129
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Just adapt IDW for a TMNT film
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USE IDW Bebop and Rocksteady
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Yes, I do agree, IDW would be the ideal version to adapt characters and tone from.
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the competence level and seriousness of the IDW versions.
You might as well fess up now. You're not even trying anymore.
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Old 11-02-2016, 02:19 PM   #130
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Wait... do people here generally not like the IDW series?
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Old 11-02-2016, 02:23 PM   #131
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Wait... do people here generally not like the IDW series?
It's generally well liked. It's well written, but it's really not for me.
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Old 11-02-2016, 02:25 PM   #132
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no, if anyone doesn't like it, it's usually just a minority.
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Old 11-02-2016, 02:37 PM   #133
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It's generally well liked. It's well written, but it's really not for me.
Sadly though, I don't think any future version is gonna be to your liking. As I told you on Facebook, my own ideas for a 2034 remake borrow a lot from the Archie comics (though I don't plan on getting into the "environmental" stuff frequently touched on back then) and the Foot Clan isn't even a centuries old family business like it's been up to this point. It starts off as a martial arts school like Cobra Kai in The Karate Kid. To make a long story short, Mirage is dead. Leave it rest in peace.
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Old 11-02-2016, 03:12 PM   #134
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Sadly though, I don't think any future version is gonna be to your liking. As I told you on Facebook, my own ideas for a 2034 remake borrow a lot from the Archie comics (though I don't plan on getting into the "environmental" stuff frequently touched on back then) and the Foot Clan isn't even a centuries old family business like it's been up to this point. It starts off as a martial arts school like Cobra Kai in The Karate Kid. To make a long story short, Mirage is dead. Leave it rest in peace.
I don't see what any of your fanfiction has to do with IDW, Mirage or... really anything in this thread, for that matter.
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Old 11-02-2016, 03:55 PM   #135
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Wait... do people here generally not like the IDW series?
The IDW series is critically acclaimed. Sometimes the pacing can be off and some characters get lost in the background, but I guess that's the nature of comic books in general.

You only have 12 issues a year with issues that are only 20 pages long, so its a fault of the medium rather than the writing itself.
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The IDW series is critically acclaimed. Sometimes the pacing can be off and some characters get lost in the background, but I guess that's the nature of comic books in general.

You only have 12 issues a year with issues that are only 20 pages long, so its a fault of the medium rather than the writing itself.
I think it's fair to say that IDW TMNT is the most successful TMNT comic series ever. Most prolific, at the very least.
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I think it's fair to say that IDW TMNT is the most successful TMNT comic series ever. Most prolific, at the very least.
It still needs to last 75 months in a row to surpass the Archie series in length. We're in month 64 (the same number of issues is the number of months its been out, of course)
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It still needs to last 75 months in a row to surpass the Archie series in length. We're in month 64 (the same number of issues is the number of months its been out, of course)
Yeah, but that's the ongoing only. Adding up all the (absolutely necessary) micro and mini series and now Universe, and we surpassed Archie a long ago.
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Sometimes the pacing can be off and some characters get lost in the background, but I guess that's the nature of comic books in general..
TMNT Universe is for all those not as popular characters. Or at least, I assume. Waiting on a trade for that series.

And with those micro-series they used to do, there are more than just 64 issues if we want to split hairs.
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Yeah, but that's the ongoing only. Adding up all the (absolutely necessary) micro and mini series and now Universe, and we surpassed Archie a long ago.
Issue count doesn't matter, its the years/months it goes on for.

Archie TMNT went on for nearly a decade. I think the first issue was in 1988 and it went on to 1995.
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