If you had total control over the rights to TMNT...

[Jephael]

We all have our say of what should and shouldn't be done with the Ninja Turtles, but the sad truth of the matter is in the end our opinions mean diddly as we don't own the rights to these characters. Even back in 2003 when Peter Laird ran the show with Mirage and 4Kids, we ultimately had no say.

Now say you worked at Viacom and were given the chance to helm the rights to the franchise and hire whoever you wanted to make an animated series or a feature film. What would you desire?

If it were up to me, I'd want Danny Phantom/Fairly OddParents creator Butch Hartman to do a Ninja Turtles cartoon series that's close to the Archie comics, and I'd want Steven Spielberg to produce the next film version and have it heavily based on the Mirage comics and even set in the 1980s.

[Andrew NDB]

[snake]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

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Andrew, that's 4 Raphs.

[Ninjinister]

I certainly wouldn't let any of you wankers near the franchise, creatively.

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I did have you in mind when I said I'd like to see a Mirage heavy film adaptation.

Originally Posted by Ninjinister

I certainly wouldn't let any of you wankers near the franchise, creatively.

That's kinda the point of this thread. We've all got our own opinions on how these characters should and shouldn't be depicted... and unfortunately no 2 people have the same ideals. Heck, even Eastman and Laird had some friction in regards to the direction of their characters as is my understanding.

[Wildcat]

Well there's been topics about what kinda movie or cartoon we'd make. Isn't this basically the same question? I'll go in a different direction.

Take the toy line away from Playmates and give it to a company that will make decent show/movie accurate toys. Not collector level quality, since there's already others for that, but someone to handle the mainstream line.

Try to get a partnership with Disney or Universal to get theme park attractions. Avatar is going to DisneyWorld (however that works). Well Nick is with Universal isn't it?

Create a chain of TMNT pizza restaurants. Like a legitimate chain similar to Pizza Hut or Dominos. I'd require they deliver pizzas in vans painted like the OT.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by Jephael

That's kinda the point of this thread. We've all got our own opinions on how these characters should and shouldn't be depicted... and unfortunately no 2 people have the same ideals. Heck, even Eastman and Laird had some friction in regards to the direction of their characters as is my understanding.

What I meant is I'd hire professionals, not just let random fans do anything with it. With very few exceptions, like unless they're professionals first, fans second - fans ruin everything when they get their hands on on the run a franchise.

I mean I have my ideas of what I'd do if I were writing/directing a movie, but if I was in charge of the entire franchise I wouldn't put that in my own hands even. Or any of yours.

[Utrommaniac]

World building galore.

And no, not just on the Utrom side of things . Although, that wouldn't be an exception.

Spoiler:

I'd have an "absolutely no one is 100% evil" rule. Even Shredder. Even Krang. Even the "Big Bad" Triceraton antagonist that I'm working on. She's a young Regenta who is trying to take up the fight against the Utroms to get attention from her parents, for the most part. The Utroms find out about this toward the end of the story, and only respond with feelings of schadenfreude and pity. As well as embarrassment that they've been fighting against a whiny brat all this time.

The conflict is mostly made by as a comedy of errors and massive misunderstandings all throughout - most of which are being made because of the turtles being 15-year-old boys who in spite of their rigid training and having two intuitive members among them, still don't take the time to process certain events logically. Also by Krang and Saki rushing through decisions on Earth and making everyone under them a little worried for their respective mental healths. They're fine with the Triceratons, but the Earth mutants just keep giving them the run-around.

Mutagen is an experimental wound cure-all that the Utroms were developing in their war against the Triceratons, but it does not heal injuries in humans - rather, it works a bit like the nanogenes in Doctor Who. With Earthlings, it confuses mixed DNA and bonds the two together, even if it's just left from a touch. Which is how the "mutates the last animal something touches" effect works in this case.

The Foot Clan were protectors of the Utroms after WWII, seeking a way to cling to their dying traditions in the wake of Japan working for the West. Saki's friendship with Yoshi collapsed when he married a Chinese-American Tang Shen, who worked at the New York branch of TCRI. The destruction of the New York TCRI takes place during the turtles' mutation, when Saki and Yoshi got into a fight that ultimately caused the building to go up in flames.


The Hamato family fell apart with Yoshi mutating in attempt to rescue some lab animals - including the turtles - and one rat that did not survive the fire. The mutated Yoshi flees with his mutated turtles to his friends, the Jones family, who have access to an old speakeasy they can hide in, and don't ask questions.

Shen remains alive and flees to Northampton, with her infant daughter Miwa as a cat, and the mutated laboratory mascot cat. Knowing there were many other mutations, she set up a halfway home for them away from the Utroms so they can hope for a cure without having to remain with the aliens, and have a hidden spot with a human to shelter with. The turtles go to Northhampton after losing a battle with Shredder per Dr. Xeinos' instruction, telling them that there's a woman helping mutants live more peacefully. Thereby, the reunion with Tang Shen and Yoshi takes place relatively early in the story, but hey, it mixes things up a little bit. I don't think it's something that belongs at the end of the story, honestly.

Krang remains the son of Emperor Quanin, but his mother is also present - as well as four younger siblings. He and Ch'rell are domestically linked and have a daughter named Aska (explanation: Utrom biology is complicated and to be discussed elsewhere. In short: even SJWs would be confused by how their sex and gender works), who works with Saki and Karai's daughter Himiko as Foot Assassins.

Oroku Saki is the son of a Foot Clan ninja and a woman who later joined him there. They met helping the victims of the Hiroshima bombing and has been brought up being described as the only good thing in their lives that resulted from being there and the results of it - besides their marriage.

April O'Neil works for Baxter Stockman, who works for TCRI. The MOUSERS happen upon Splinter by accident and reveals the hidden mutants to Krang, whose ambition is to destroy mutants that were not originally human - or too far "gone" from their original forms, such as what Muckman would be categorized as. And she only meets the turtles while they and Casey break into the new TCRI to rescue Splinter, and they get him out of the lab before the Utroms are able to reverse his mutation. Irma is her roommate, who works with Vernon Finwick...who is married to John Bishop.

Bishop's story is basically the same as it is in the 4Kids show. Abducted by aliens in 1812 and dropped in New York in the modern day, but was found by Vernon, who was his guide through the modern world. Ultimately, once he found his own way, he managed to get his way into the EPF. Vernon seeks out information on the mutants to help his husband, and Irma helps him just because she's curious about it and is already generally nosy.

Apart from the turtles and the Mighty Mutanimals, there would be another mutant group: The Mutant Misfits, made up of Snakeweed, Seymour Gutz, Muckman, and Joe Eyeball. And any other non-animal mutants that wouldn't really fit in with the other groups that I'm not thinking of at the moment.

While I want to think I would make a mishmash of different versions, it just seems like I've crafted my own take??? I'm not really sure what to compare it to.

There's a lot more that I have in mind, but that's the basic idea. I'd develop more at another time and another place, but I'd have to find it.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

If I was in control of tmnt, Id get the Fred Wolf Show to play on all the kids channels, have all the new shows cross over with FW, force every new version to pay Atleast 5-6 homages to FW and make FW the one and only definitive version

[pferreira]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

If I was in control of tmnt, Id get the Fred Wolf Show to play on all the kids channels, have all the new shows cross over with FW, force every new version to pay Atleast 5-6 homages to FW and make FW the one and only definitive version

Ha, ha! I'm sure you'd get complaints from fans but not from me. Thumbs up!

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac

Absolutely no magic. Unless there's a stage magician, but that doesn't count. And there probably wouldn't be one, though it would make an interesting annoyance.

In a story with (granted, kind of dumb) science at the heart of its creation, there is very little room for mysticism.

I take it you didn't like the bit in the 1990 movie where Splinter's spirit appeared around the campfire?

Originally Posted by neatoman

How do you quantify this? For example, if it was "75% Fred Wolf, 10% Archie", wouldn't April be a reporter? If anything there's more of 4kids in the series than there is Archie.

You're not cracking jokes and taking pot shots when it's your iteration of TMNT being criticised! Don't worry I'm only joking but you can see where I'm coming from.

Originally Posted by Jephael

Dude, you're like the Jerry Seinfeld of this place... though I guess that makes me George Costanza!!!

Andrew has erm...strong feelings about about TMNT but would you argue with someone who looks like he could kill you? Andrew is scary.

Originally Posted by RaphaelsIsolation

Those splits of what IDW's TMNT is... is horrible. It's got more Fred Wolf in there than anything, but not by that much man.

I would like to add the Turtles reincarnation idea did not originate from the Fred Wolf cartoon.

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by pferreira

Andrew has erm...strong feelings about about TMNT but would you argue with someone who looks like he could kill you? Andrew is scary.

Or so you think. Yea sure he's rough around the edges and he likes to act like he's hot sh*t, but he's no different than you or me... to an extent.

[pferreira]

Originally Posted by Jephael

Or so you think. Yea sure he's rough around the edges and he likes to act like he's hot sh*t, but he's no different than you or me... to an extent.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by dragonside

AND A CHRISTMAS SPECIAL. because the Fred Wolf Cartoon has no Christmas special.

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Yeah, what the heck was up with that?

Good idea! It didn't have a Halloween episode either but got an Easter one. The reason CBS never requested one was probably because of when it was scheduled to run.

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac

I haven't even seen the 90's live action movies . I know enough about it to think it's a sweet idea, but it's where I'd draw the line.

Oh yeah please feel free to see it even though you'll probably cringe at that part since you don't like TMNT mixed with spiritual/fantasy stuff.

[Utrommaniac]

Originally Posted by pferreira

I take it you didn't like the bit in the 1990 movie where Splinter's spirit appeared around the campfire?

I haven't even seen the 90's live action movies . I know enough about it to think it's a sweet idea, but it's where I'd draw the line.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac

I haven't even seen the 90's live action movies . I know enough about it to think it's a sweet idea, but it's where I'd draw the line.

You should at least watch the first movie, it's required viewing.

[ToTheNines]

I normally hate when cubed acts like a thought-policing facist, but.... yeeeeah. Please go watch the 1990 movie immediately. It's making me sad that you haven't had the pleasure.

[DestronMirage22]

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac

I haven't even seen the 90's live action movies . I know enough about it to think it's a sweet idea, but it's where I'd draw the line.

Wow, that's surprising. I definitely recommend it, there's a reason why so many people have watched it. The sequels aren't as good, but they've still got some stuff going for them.