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Old 11-29-2006, 12:49 PM   #1
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TMNT Ep "Nightmares Recycled" will never air

From the official TMNT site:

EPISODE 110

"Nightmares Recycled"

Story Editor: Lloyd Goldfine

Senior Supervising Director: Roy Burdine

Written by Roland Gonzalez

Synopsis:

Raph, Don, Casey, and April’s evening salvage operation lands them a one-way ticket to Recycle World – the Garbageman’s deadly realm of refuse! As if fighting for their lives in a world of lethal compactors and shredders wasn’t bad enough, they’ve got to do it all with Hun – who’s not thrilled to reveal that he and Garbageman have something in common – DNA!

NOTE: This episode was never completed. The script was finished and some animation had begun when 4Kids pulled the plug because it was deemed too controversial for a children's program (apparently Hun and the Garbageman were going to be conjoined twins that were surgically separated at birth).

Raph's Girl note:
4Kids execs "OMG! Oh noooose!!! conjoined twins surgically seperated at birth!! It's *gasps* controversal!! Noooo!! We can't show that!!"

Anybody who's ever seen "CatDog": ".........."
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:57 PM   #2
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Reactions are strongly going to come from fans saying the obvious...

"They pulled a Garbage man ep? That's great news!"

Whoever the anal retentive dispshizzy that runs the network now... oy...

It's like, no wonder why their version of One Piece sucked. We just can't upset little kids with that type of thing. By little kids, they mean irate grownups who get excited over the mear thought of a boycott, while letting little Jimmy or Jayney watch Jerry Springer without complaint.

Really is sad. I DID like Garbage man, to contradict the rest of the fans. And this would have improved the overall aspect of his character.

Now, why they couldn't have rewritten it as them being regular twins, sepperated at birth instead is beyond me. It could have got it on the air.

It would be cool if they animated it and recorded it anyway, and just put it on the DVD of the Lost season... unless that was why it was pulled. Though I doubt it.
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:40 PM   #3
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that's really stupid to not have an episode done peter laird was paying for the episodes...and once again 4kids screws him over..real nice...
And that episode sounds like it would add allot to both the characters of garbadge man and hun real nice now we never will get to see it.
damn bastards...
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Old 11-29-2006, 02:00 PM   #4
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4Kids pulled the plug because it was deemed too controversial for a children's program (apparently Hun and the Garbageman were going to be conjoined twins that were surgically separated at birth).
Controversial? No. Politically incorrect? Hardly. Where can I send these dufuses a dictionary? They obviously need one. I understand that this is a very bizarre topic for a kids' show that self-righteous adults have mixed feelings about. But, to look the other way when life is distorted by birth-defects just seems like passive hatefulness. To exclude them from decent fiction stories simply because some people find them creepy is not right. I thought this ep would be just delaying the main storyline, and I wouldn't miss it. But, something that heavy is genius and the only forgivable excuse for breaking the focus.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:20 PM   #5
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If it's a STV release what's the big deal anyway....concerned parents can just skip past that episode when they play it and parents who don't care or us older fans can have some good ole character driven story. Everyone wins....maybe.
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:04 PM   #6
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Well that explains why the DVD and the Lost Season episodes were pulled, they no longer have thirteen episodes to package on DVD or Diigital, so they'll have to delay the release and the season until they can produce a substitute.
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:44 PM   #7
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Well that explains why the DVD and the Lost Season episodes were pulled, they no longer have thirteen episodes to package on DVD or Diigital, so they'll have to delay the release and the season until they can produce a substitute.
or just change the number of episodes listed on the box art.
This story does sound fun and will add allot but we're hardly missing anything without it.
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:58 PM   #8
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Can't they just change it to him being a reject clone of Hun? Everyone knows Shredder played with cloning. Whatever, at least Insane was finished before 4Kids could be stupid with it.

If Peter had any gusto left he would give 4Kids the finger after all the episodes are finished, complete this garbage man one, and then find someone else to release it. Seriously I'm sure he made an episode with Garbage man in it so everyone would like the character more. Since he's dubbed as one of the worst TMNT villains ever. At least he would have a grim origin.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:41 PM   #9
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Well that explains why the DVD and the Lost Season episodes were pulled, they no longer have thirteen episodes to package on DVD or Diigital, so they'll have to delay the release and the season until they can produce a substitute.
Ooh... Impulsive post... Must... fight... Can't... resist.
So, maybe my math's a little rusty, but I'm pretty sure "The Ninja Tribunal" plus 12 eps of The Lost Season adds up to 13 eps.
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So, maybe my math's a little rusty, but I'm pretty sure "The Ninja Tribunal" plus 12 eps of The Lost Season adds up to 13 eps.
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Old 11-30-2006, 11:57 PM   #11
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From the official TMNT site:

EPISODE 110

"Nightmares Recycled"

Story Editor: Lloyd Goldfine

Senior Supervising Director: Roy Burdine

Written by Roland Gonzalez

Synopsis:

Raph, Don, Casey, and April’s evening salvage operation lands them a one-way ticket to Recycle World – the Garbageman’s deadly realm of refuse! As if fighting for their lives in a world of lethal compactors and shredders wasn’t bad enough, they’ve got to do it all with Hun – who’s not thrilled to reveal that he and Garbageman have something in common – DNA!

NOTE: This episode was never completed. The script was finished and some animation had begun when 4Kids pulled the plug because it was deemed too controversial for a children's program (apparently Hun and the Garbageman were going to be conjoined twins that were surgically separated at birth).

Raph's Girl note:
4Kids execs "OMG! Oh noooose!!! conjoined twins surgically seperated at birth!! It's *gasps* controversal!! Noooo!! We can't show that!!"

Anybody who's ever seen "CatDog": ".........."
actually you should be blaming BSMP
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Old 12-01-2006, 12:52 AM   #12
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BSMP? Who dat??
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Old 12-05-2006, 11:52 AM   #13
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Then again... maybe they could finish it specifically for the DVD release or at the very least record it (unless they already have) and show an animatic of how it would have been. or even just put the script up. Maybe for some special feature.


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BSMP? Who dat??
I guess he ment BSAP, Broadcast standards and practices.

You know the self censoring buggers that try hard not to warrent complaints from childless old women who watch TV specifically so they can find a way to ruin everything, so everyone ultimately has their old timey prudish views.
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Old 12-05-2006, 02:16 PM   #14
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Yeah, the episode did sound pretty lame. Garbageman was probably the stupidest character on TMNT 2k3. I found his two episodes he was in to be the worst the series had. While the story did have a neat twist, I could care less.

Yes, I do think this is exactly why the DVD set got pushed a bit. This episode was planned to be on the 13 episode set but since it really has nothing to do with the Ninja Tribunal/Real Shredder storyline, it was okay to be pulled. Maybe 4kids realized this. Since we all know that the set is coming to DVD in Austraila in March.

However, I think we should at least see this story adapted into a comic book. That at least would give us an idea of how the story would of worked out.
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actually you should be blaming BSMP
Ooh! I think I just figured it out... Board of Standard MalPractices?? That's awesome!
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Old 12-06-2006, 04:39 PM   #16
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I did and I'm just stating my opinion on how rude it is to act that way to some one who went out of his way to have something made for the fans.
And it's not dirrected towards you even though I quoted you or anyone else I just wanted it to be known that it's very rude.
The funny thing is, people here act very rude during most of the Fast Forward discussions as well. Unlike them, my opinions aren't biased. If I truely hated or liked whatever they do -- be it TMNT 2K3 or FF -- I won't hold back in telling it like it is. Afterall, this forum is a place to discuss things. Plus, I had a reason not to like it. I didn't bash it just because it's about Garbageman. And believe it or not, I'm one of the few people who didn't mind the Garbageman episodes. But what's there just sounds like they shove it there just to make him cooler. Just cause it a back story to a character doesn't mean it adds anything or makes he or she better.
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Old 12-06-2006, 04:50 PM   #17
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Just cause it a back story to a character doesn't mean it adds anything or makes he or she better.
actully it does...because he was nothing besides some mojo from x-men rip off untill the concept of this now lost episode. I'd say that adds quite a bit especially the bit about him being part of hun.
And yes many fans have been rude about fast forward and liek I told them all and many others involved with the show that it would only get better.
But no one listens people always have to see for themselves. Oh well
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True, there's no real reason to put Garnageman and Hun together, it sounds too fan friendly, which itself is a contradiction given how the majority of fans despise Nano and Garbageman, so there's obvious two of Peter's favourates.
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True, there's no real reason to put Garnageman and Hun together, it sounds too fan friendly, which itself is a contradiction given how the majority of fans despise Nano and Garbageman, so there's obvious two of Peter's favourates.
yea I think it's pretty clear that peter likes nano tech stuff just look at it all in volume 4 I mean mung even had it in red sky.
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Old 12-18-2006, 10:52 AM   #20
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actually you should be blaming BSMP
Exactly! There are a lot of people quick to blame 4Kids for this kind of stuff, but it's FOX standards and practices that pulls the plug in many of these cases, not 4Kids.

Them being conjoined twins was not the reason it was pulled btw, if that was the case they would've killed it in the scripting phase.
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