03-23-2020, 04:56 AM | #181 |
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Tmnt 2 Battle Nexus is a masterpiece.
Change my mind.
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03-23-2020, 12:28 PM | #182 |
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I didn’t care much for the gameplay tbh, but to be fair, I’m not a beat-em-up fan anyway. Original character Slashurr was awesome and the anime-seque cutscenes were well done, though.
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He could have been a nice character. Even tho he had a weird context in the games.
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04-13-2020, 05:27 PM | #185 |
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The first basic assortment figures from the original Playmates TMNT toy line was all that needed to be made.
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I don't think Red Sky "tried too hard" to be serious, but rather, it was trying to evolve into something more typical of what early-90s action cartoons had become by that point, and that simply wasn't compatible with the first seven or whatever seasons of the show as it had existed. The disconnect was rather jarring; It's like there was a hard reboot over the summer break between seasons or something, that's why it felt so ill-fitting. But if they show had been like that from the very beginning, nobody would accuse it of being overly serious or trying too hard. It's fairly middle of the road as far as action cartoons go. It just doesn't mesh with the early seasons well and feels like almost a different show at times, especially since they sh*tcanned the entire supporting cast and started over with new villains.
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Kidding, kinda. I don't really have as much love for that line as most people here do, as I barely collected it, and avoided most of it like the plague because I hated most of the silly variants. I will say, though, they needed to hang on long enough to give us a better Shredder than that awful first one, which they did, eventually. So I can forgive SOME of the line's transgressions later on.
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I thought season 7 was a decent segway into the Red Sky seasons.
While the show's violence slowly started to creep back in somewhere around season 5 after having been heavily censored, it was season 7 which was really standout for being quite a bit more serious than what came before it. Even the final episode of the "Blue Sky" era, has villains being much meaner, and the ending frame is of a sunset as Splinter warns the turtles that the villains are still out there, and a threat despite no longer having the technodrome. Quite fitting in my opinion.
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To be honest it's been a while so I'll take your word for it.
There's stuff about the FW show I like a lot - primarily the earliest stuff and some of the stuff near the end - but every time I try to do a marathon or whatever I hit a brick wall. Last time I tried, those European Vacation episodes had me ready to quit on the whole series forever. Didn't make it past them and haven't really tried since. I do remember being totally "WTF?" when I turned the show on one day as a kid and it was suddenly the Red Sky stuff. Took a minute to get used to it, but I actually liked it for what it was. I'd watched the FW show religiously every single day up until like 1991 but after that I only checked in once in a while because I was kinda over it. The Red Sky seasons at least seemed like it wasn't the same old thing for the millionth time, which is what made me lose interest along the way around the midpoint of the series.
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And you were only a little away from the good part of season 7 which trust me, is a hundred times better than European Vacation (weird how European vacation is considered to be season 7 despite clearly taking place in season 4). Next time you think of rewatching the show, I would suggest that just watching season 7 alone might not be a bad idea (it's only 14 episodes long, and one of the best seasons in terms of animation, action and side characters like the Rat King, Baxter, Triceratons, Neutrinos etc.)
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I'd honestly say that the scale is tipped far heavier towards the "Like" than "Dislike" on the whole, even if it doesn't come off that way sometimes. But some of the stuff is undeniably pretty bad and I don't much believe in sacred cows. Those European episodes, for example, were just plain poorly made and I would hope that the creators felt at least a little bit of shame. As you've pointed out, there were lots of much better episodes within fairly close proximity to those. This cartoon definitely needed some Lithium. ...Because it was Bipolar. Ba-dum-tsh! ...That's a little joke for those of us who've been "treated and released". Others may not get it. Interesting point! Still a pretty junky figure all things considered. Once I acquired a Super-Shredder he became my permanent Playmates display Shredder.
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And as evidenced by the short episode count of those seasons, I'd say the show had probably lost it's popularity before they began airing. Nobody makes cartoon seasons shorter than 13 episodes under normal circumstances.
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It was probably somewhere around late season 4/early season 5 that the show's mass popularity began to fade.
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I admit, the last time I popped in a DVD with FW episodes on it (and boy, that was some time ago), when that theme kicked in on the first episode I felt a positive rush of warm nostalgia wash over me. I felt giddy. It continued into... maybe the next 6 or 7 episodes. Then I totally lost interest. I'd had my "fix."
A lot like when I popped in DS9 and VOY and watched the opening credits sequences. Awesome, it took me back. The difference with these being that I actually keep on watching because they're good shows.
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The ‘88 Shredder did not look too out of place with the other figures. The turtles did not wear double belt straps in the cartoon either. Neither did Raph have Sai carriers on his belt. The way I see it, the original Playmates toy line is another adaption of the TMNT. It was different from the comic book, Fred Wolf TV show, and movie universes.
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Somewhere around 2012, when I was showing my daughter cartoons.
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