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Old 04-05-2018, 09:25 AM   #41
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You have never read a comic book. Stop.
Wasn't Superman the light to Batman's dark? He might occasionally brood nowadays since everyone nowadays has to be as miserable as the reader or else 'they can't relate', but he isn't known for brooding. The contrast of light and dark is what made Superman and Batman work. Making Superman dark in the movies already threw things off.
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Old 04-05-2018, 08:24 PM   #42
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That's one overly-simplified "explanation" of their relationship out of many that exist. It hardly says everything about "why they work", nor does it give either of them enough credit.

It also doesn't account for the fact that they've been paired up in the comics since the 1940s, and yet Batman has only been "the dark one" since the mid-80s. Or that the whole "They're polar opposites!" (false) idea people like to subscribe to is even more recent than that.

Point being, "One is Light, One is Dark" may be easy to digest, but it's an oversimplification. As for what one viewer sees as "brooding", others will see as "Reacting realistically to the situations a character finds themselves in." In any case, the version of Superman appearing in the recent films has already been the standard in comic books for longer than you or I have been alive, so, that makes it valid in my eyes.

This really doesn't belong in this thread; I just have a chip in my head that sets off an alarm whenever people make false or misleading claims about the Superman character. They told me I'd regret it, but eh.

I'm not going to continue this conversation with you here, and my PM box is full, but I wouldn't be averse to speaking with you elsewhere, if you wish. Pretty sure you know where to find me. The caveat being, you actually want to have a serious conversation. Otherwise, I'm too busy.
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Old 04-07-2018, 01:42 AM   #43
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It also doesn't account for the fact that they've been paired up in the comics since the 1940s, and yet Batman has only been "the dark one" since the mid-80s. Or that the whole "They're polar opposites!" (false) idea people like to subscribe to is even more recent than that.
That's not a bad point, really. Though I'm sure many would rush to point out Batman was shooting criminals dead even in his first issues. I don't think it's unfair to say that, "Batman has always been darker than Superman," even though they're certainly not polar opposites.

They're polar opposites in terms of powers and abilities. Superman just happens to be superhuman and invulnerable because of DNA... Batman spent years training himself and spending untold millions to equip himself to give him an edge.
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