Let's Discuss TMNT #22!

[Tazi]

Originally Posted by shredder orokusaki

It was an amazing issue! I almost killed Casey and beat the turtles very hard!!! AHAAHAHAH!! That issue realy shows how badass i am!!!!!

And I'm guessing you didn't put this in a spoiler tag, because you're the Shredder, and thus makes you evil. Sigh...

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

Who at IDW doesn't know how to spell "material?" I'm drunker than Casey's dad right now, and I still caught that error...

Great preview though. I'm behind you guys on City Fall 100%.

[MikeandRaph87]

Referencing the letter column,More Weird Bobby Stories? Sounds like a good thread!

Just a cameo of Bebop and Rocksteady? More than that,come on!

Angel visits her father who is off pannel...I bet the fan theory is about to be proven correct!

Possible spoiler.....
I thought the cover to 23 was Raphael since he was ambushed with Casey it appears its Leonardo as he was separated and Casey's stomache being scratched prevented him from being rounded up.

[shredder orokusaki]

Originally Posted by Tazi

And I'm guessing you didn't put this in a spoiler tag, because you're the Shredder, and thus makes you evil. Sigh...

Exactly! That why i didnt puit in spoiler tag! Because i wanted to show to evryone how much evil i am!!!

[TomWaltz]

Originally Posted by ***The One True Shredder***

Who at IDW doesn't know how to spell "material?" I'm drunker than Casey's dad right now, and I still caught that error...

Great preview though. I'm behind you guys on City Fall 100%.

Umm... Materiel (from the French matériel for equipment or hardware, related to the word material, and sometimes so spelled in English) is a term used in English for equipment and supplies in military and commercial supply chain management.

[Weapons@theready]

In one word-Greatness

To expand I am totally in love with this arc already, I can't wait to see how the story progresses

couple of things

Spoiler:

1.loved seeing Raph and Leo go at in when it comes to saving Casey
2.Raph going bat **** crazy - so glad we finally got to see that hyper-agressive side of him
3. Shredder is ruthless, I actually wasn't sure based on the art if he had stabbed Casey, but even though I like Casey it was good to see Shredder actually be a bad ass

On a negative note, I feel like Splinter training with Leo is foreshadowing the "surprise attack" or katsugi men if you will of Leo joining the Foot just to sneak attack Shredder

[Martin]

I'm sure there'll be a discussion thread where we will rant at length about why this issue was so awesome, but I just need to get this out of my system:

Spoiler:

Bravo, just bravo.

[DrSpengler]

Here's my review for TMNT #22 at TMNT Entity.

Alright, wow. That was a hell of a way to begin a story arc.

The multitude of plot threads coming to fruition or otherwise being referenced is a bit overwhelming, but even the uninitiated can get by on just the spectacular art and action alone. Seriously, you guys have to hold onto Santolouco; he's the best.

What gets me about the issue is that there's basically one conflict: Big trouble and not a lot of time to react. They need to save Casey, but they have to come up with a plan first, but they don't have enough time to do it. When Splinter tries to stall for time, that has a horrible consequence for Casey. And at the end, they're back where they started only in WORSE shape: They have to save Leo, but they have to save Casey, too, and time is running out.

It builds and builds and builds at a steady pace and finally leaves your adrenaline hanging at the end there. Really well paced.

What was even better was that Splinter's apprehension at Shredder's threat backfired and may have gotten Casey killed. It shows a great vulnerability not just to the heroes, but to their master. He messed up and it may cost them a member of their family. For some reason, I really like stories where Splinter screws up.

And hey, they answered my letter in Ninja Notes! Another "Bebop" and "Rocksteady" cameo in the future, huh? Well, now I know I'm living in The Truman Show.

[ToTheNines]

Wow! Too amazing. I thought #21 was awful, but this kicked the book right back into gear.

I love Mateus-san's art in the ongoing even more than I did in the Foot Mini. A little less stylized. And boy, ain't Ronda and him great together?

The story was awesome though... very intense. I can tell this is going to be great arc.

Only problem with it was Mikey being a chicken sh*t about Slash coming back. First of all, I hate when Mike is portrayed like that. Also, don't they all think Slash is dead?

Anyways, this was just great and I don't know if I've ever been more excited for this book. The Shredder/Casey thing literally made me say "what the fu*k". MS is killing it. The micros rock. Thank you IDW.

[MikeandRaph87]

Just remembered...all the artist thus far have a hand in #23? How will that work out? Flashbacks?

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

The Shredder/Casey thing literally made me say "what the fu*k". MS is killing it. The micros rock. Thank you IDW.

I about crapped myself when I saw that panal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is definately one of the best issues of the series!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THis totally makes up for issue 21,
Good job IDW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Martin]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Just remembered...all the artist thus far have a hand in #23? How will that work out? Flashbacks?

*WARNING* Wild speculation ahead, proceed with caution:

Spoiler:

For some reason I'm lead to believe that it might have something to do with Kitsune brainwashing Leo. I picture her either going through his memories, plucking them out one by one, or maybe she'll make him focus on the different conflicts he had with his brothers, planting hate seeds all over the place (all of this would be done via flashbacks). She might even go as far as pointing out, in a really subversive way, that the one responsible their mother's death was Splinter. I remember a moment in Leo's micro where he remembered his mother's demise and he just lost it. I've been waiting for this to pop up for a while now and this might just be it.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Martinf

*WARNING* Wild speculation ahead, proceed with caution:

Spoiler:

For some reason I'm lead to believe that it might have something to do with Kitsune brainwashing Leo. I picture her either going through his memories, plucking them out one by one, or maybe she'll make him focus on the different conflicts he had with his brothers, planting hate seeds all over the place (all of this would be done via flashbacks). She might even go as far as pointing out, in a really subversive way, that the one responsible their mother's death was Splinter. I remember a moment in Leo's micro where he remembered his mother's demise and he just lost it. I've been waiting for this to pop up for a while now and this might just be it.

[Matches Malone]

Originally Posted by DrSpengler

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What gets me about the issue is that there's basically one conflict

I just realized that this is the first issue of the ongoing without jumping between perspectives and narratives. #21 was almost, but then it jumps to the Shredder at the end. Just thought that was interesting and am wondering if the rest of the arc will follow suit.

Originally Posted by Martinf

*WARNING* Wild speculation ahead, proceed with caution:

Spoiler:

For some reason I'm lead to believe that it might have something to do with Kitsune brainwashing Leo. I picture her either going through his memories, plucking them out one by one, or maybe she'll make him focus on the different conflicts he had with his brothers, planting hate seeds all over the place (all of this would be done via flashbacks). She might even go as far as pointing out, in a really subversive way, that the one responsible their mother's death was Splinter. I remember a moment in Leo's micro where he remembered his mother's demise and he just lost it. I've been waiting for this to pop up for a while now and this might just be it.

That's a pretty good theory, I think you might be on to something there.

[corvus]

Originally Posted by Martinf

*WARNING* Wild speculation ahead, proceed with caution:

Spoiler:

For some reason I'm lead to believe that it might have something to do with Kitsune brainwashing Leo. I picture her either going through his memories, plucking them out one by one, or maybe she'll make him focus on the different conflicts he had with his brothers, planting hate seeds all over the place (all of this would be done via flashbacks). She might even go as far as pointing out, in a really subversive way, that the one responsible their mother's death was Splinter. I remember a moment in Leo's micro where he remembered his mother's demise and he just lost it. I've been waiting for this to pop up for a while now and this might just be it.

Spoiler:

I was thinking she could also put the idea that his family valued Caseys' life over his own.

[ToxicRevolution]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Only problem with it was Mikey being a chicken sh*t about Slash coming back. First of all, I hate when Mike is portrayed like that. Also, don't they all think Slash is dead?

Hmm, I didn't interpret that scene as Michelangelo being afraid that Slash was coming back, I thought he was excited since they were all pretty upset at his apparent death. I could be wrong, but none of the turtles has ever shown fear when faced with a fight and towards the end of the Slash run they started to see him as sort of a tragic, misguided relative.

Anyway, it was a great issue. Got my hands on the A, B, and RIA covers. Already can't wait for the next issue!

[oldmanwinters]

Maybe the best issue yet!
(in the ongoing series, anyway)

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by Martinf

*WARNING* Wild speculation ahead, proceed with caution:

Spoiler:

For some reason I'm lead to believe that it might have something to do with Kitsune brainwashing Leo. I picture her either going through his memories, plucking them out one by one, or maybe she'll make him focus on the different conflicts he had with his brothers, planting hate seeds all over the place (all of this would be done via flashbacks). She might even go as far as pointing out, in a really subversive way, that the one responsible their mother's death was Splinter. I remember a moment in Leo's micro where he remembered his mother's demise and he just lost it. I've been waiting for this to pop up for a while now and this might just be it.

damn't this is what I thought I put in my last post apparently not, I think someone brainwashed me and stole my idea
But this was my first thought as well when I saw

Spoiler:

Kitsune and Leo just get knocked the hell out

[Cipher]

Really enjoyed this issue. See me in six months for thoughts on the arc as a whole.

[Weapons@theready]

One more thing, I loved the irony in Karai's line "Foolishly loyal unto death"