Official Ep Discussion: S3 Ep16: "Clash of the Mutanimals"

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by OrangeNinja1987

while he sat in that stupid lowered bunker thing.
With his head just sticking out of the top, it looked like the elevator got stuck.

Yeah, when he lowered down into that and was surrounded by fire I was like one of those dogs with the tilted head. "Huh?"

Sure... I'm just gonna get down in here and watch the fight with just my head visible and a wall of fire in front of my face, because it makes total sense to me as a complete psycho. lol

Of course, after Slash knocked over the statue and Shredder lived I could see the sole reason for it...

[Sabacooza]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Yeah, when he lowered down into that and was surrounded by fire I was like one of those dogs with the tilted head. "Huh?"

Sure... I'm just gonna get down in here and watch the fight with just my head visible and a wall of fire in front of my face, because it makes total sense to me as a complete psycho. lol

Wouldn't his face get burnt because of being so close to the fire? I didn't get that part. "I am Shredder and nothing phases me."

[Ashwolf]

Originally Posted by Werecat

The worm creature actually reminds me of an old 1988 movie called Brain Damage. "A boy (Rick Herbst) grows addicted to psychedelic jolts from an eel-like brain-eating monster called Elmer." From Google search. IMDB. They always do a reference to old horror movies and I wonder if they referenced Brain Damage.

The worms could've also been a nod toward the goula'ud in stargate

[Skylanders fan]

Great Episode
Yeah it sucks Dark Ralph is onlly one episode
But loved Dr rockwell hitting donnie
Slash and the rest of the mutanimals are back
Great to see a variety of shredders mutants and not just using one or two
Liked how they made mikey face tiger claw
I felt that the turtes and mutanimals could have taken on the foot and tiger claw in the end
All in All 8/10

[CyberCubed]

People complaining about the shows "quality" should all leave because they don't know what they're talking about. Whining about some stupid dark Raphael thing that you guys conjured up yourselves by random speculation in threads for months.

The content of the episode was fantastic, and since mind-control plots in animation/comics has been done to death for decades I'm glad it didn't last more than an episode.

[yellowmario27]

The only thing I didn't like was the constant use of the phrase "SNAP OUT OF IT"

okay, maybe it was only said 3 times, but still

Solid episode.

[Sabacooza]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

People complaining about the shows "quality" should all leave because they don't know what they're talking about. Whining about some stupid dark Raphael thing that you guys conjured up yourselves by random speculation in threads for months.

The content of the episode was fantastic, and since mind-control plots in animation/comics has been done to death for decades I'm glad it didn't last more than an episode.

I think you should leave because you're clearly full of ****. Look how often you whined about the turtles having nostrils and you still do it.

While I'll admit the fighting was great, the story was not.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

People complaining about the shows "quality" should all leave because they don't know what they're talking about. Whining about some stupid dark Raphael thing that you guys conjured up yourselves by random speculation in threads for months.

The content of the episode was fantastic, and since mind-control plots in animation/comics has been done to death for decades I'm glad it didn't last more than an episode.

Cybercubed...considering the past threads you were making about Bebop & Hun (for those who don't know...just take a look back)...you're the LAST PERSON to talk...

The writers are utterly ignorant about how to write for Raph & Mikey. For example, callbacks to the season 2 finale (where Mikey hugged Raph to calm his rage) would have worked out Perfectly...but they didn't do that. Because they're stupid (in MY opinion).

Not giving Mikey or Raph any actual arcs (while Leo, Don, Casey, and even April have a lot more going for them) is not 'dumb'. And potentially wasting something that could have been great is 'not dumb'.

Once again, go back to your posts about Hun, or Bebop, or such Cybercubed...and remember the phrase 'the pot calling the kettle black'.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Sabacooza

I think you should leave because you're clearly full of ****. Look how often you talked about the turtles having nostrils and you still do it.

While I'll admit the fighting was great, the story was mediocre.

Complaining about designs is not the same as getting upset about a plotline that was never intended because you guys believed your own speculation from threads for months. Raph being mind controlled wasn't hyped up for months in the show, and the previews of this ep showed Raph and the Mutanimals under shredder's command.

[Sabacooza]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Complaining about designs is not the same as getting upset about a plotline that was never intended because you guys believed your own speculation from threads for months. Raph being mind controlled wasn't hyped up for months in the show, and the previews of this ep showed Raph and the Mutanimals under shredder's command.

Okay Mr. hypocrite.

[newhire13]

I think some of you guys take things way too personally lol. Jeez.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Sabacooza

Okay Mr. hypocrite.

Not liking the design of a character is the same as getting upset over a non-existent plotline that you falsely claim was "hyped up" for months? Where did this whole "dark Raph" thing even come from? Ciro said Raph would turn evil for an episode, and you guys went crazy with that speculation for months and now are getting all up in arms about it.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Not liking the design of a character is the same as getting upset over a non-existent plotline that you falsely claim was "hyped up" for months?

I can't speak for him. I'm speaking for myself.

So me complaining that I want characters like Mikey and Raph to have good, solid arcs, on-going storylines is bad thing. And for them to be treated fairly (which I DEFINITELY think both have not) is a bad thing.

But you talking and making threads about the races of Bebop and Hun is peachy.



*Pats you on the back.* If you say so.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

But you talking and making threads about the races of Bebop and Hun is peachy.

I was worried Bebop's race would be changed, but since it wasn't I'm fine. As for Hun, I didn't make the thread about Hun that's currently on the front page here. You can see others didn't like his design change either.

And again, I don't see how character designs is the same thing as getting angry over a plotline that was only existence in speculation.

[Jephael]

Boy dontcha just love how this forum brings out the best of us TMNT fans?

[TurtleTitan97]

It was a good episode, though it was a bit disappointing to see Dark Raph didn't last long.

[Sabacooza]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Not liking the design of a character is the same as getting upset over a non-existent plotline that you falsely claim was "hyped up" for months? Where did this whole "dark Raph" thing even come from? Ciro said Raph would turn evil for an episode, and you guys went crazy with that speculation for months and now are getting all up in arms about it.

I could go on and on about how you complain about things that aren't design related and believe me, you do a lot of complaining on this forum so don't even go there with me. Besides I'm not talking about a specific plotline I had in my head, I'm mainly referring to Raph getting a little more respect in the show. I don't think I'm asking for the world.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I was worried Bebop's race would be changed, but since it wasn't I'm fine. As for Hun, I didn't make the thread about Hun that's currently on the front page here. You can see others didn't like his design change either.

And again, I don't see how character designs is the same thing as getting angry over a plotline that was only existence in speculation.

You were getting mad if Bebop wasn't black. But did I go up to you and say "you should leave cause you don't know what you're talking about?"

I get mad because I think certain characters needs to be better handled in terms of arcs, development, usage, and so on...and yet I should leave because I want two characters that I enjoy (Mikey & Raph) to be better handled...in which I gave specific reasons as to how they COULD be better handled.

If you really don't know where I'm going with it, Cybercubed...then just drop it and get back to the topic at hand, which is this episode.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Sabacooza

I could go on and on about how you complain about things that aren't design related and believe me, you do a lot of complaining on this forum so don't even go there with me. Besides I'm not talking about a specific plotline I had in my head, I'm mainly referring to Raph getting a little more respect in the show. I don't think I'm asking for the world.

So if Raphael remained mind controlled for 5 episodes, would it make any difference? Most likely Raph would remain Shredder's bland clone obeying his every whim, and the outcome would have been the same as this episode with Leo snapping him out of it. It just would have been dragged out over 5 episodes instead of one.

[Sabacooza]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

So if Raphael remained mind controlled for 5 episodes, would it make any difference? Most likely Raph would remain Shredder's bland clone obeying his every whim, and the outcome would have been the same as this episode with Leo snapping him out of it. It just would have been dragged out over 5 episodes instead of one.

They could've done so much more with this for reasons other people stated. Stop being so close-minded.