What if the Original Tmnt cartoon never ended?

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 11-20-2017, 04:42 PM

Imagine if after 193 episodes, it was decided that the original tmnt cartoon was not cancelled but rather renewed for many more seasons in the indefinete future, reaching the status of long running animated shows like Simpsons, Pokemon and Spongebob.

What do you think it would've been like?

*IndigoErth* · 11-20-2017, 04:47 PM

Honestly...? I think the storytelling would have just gone downhill after a while. Much the way the Sponge has while they continue to try to keep it alive after so long.

Although I suppose they could have instead of making it officially separate series it could have at some point had different "chapters" that took on a new tone, art style and increased their age slowly. Freshening it up a bit and continuing, much like the darn Power Rangers that seemed to have kept going while changing people and themes a little (I think?) now and then.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 11-20-2017, 05:10 PM

A lot of plots contradicting each other, time passing and the turtles not aging with them. I'm glad it was allowed to rest in peace for at least 13 years.

cammy85 · 11-21-2017, 09:20 AM

I had three different ideas when I was younger:

1. replaces seasons 8-10 altogether and just has S+K on Earth for a few episodes before returning to Dimension X and then resuming as normal. Before returning to the Technodrome, they acquire a sophisticated lab that Baxter fly took over with some aliens and finally returned to human form... only to be properly incarcerated. Oops!!

2. Dregg and Mung are still together somehow (remember Dregg blasted Hitech in Doomquest and he didn't abandon Dregg?) and only had two episodes; each ripping off old plots. The first was a more sophisticated "reverse the world's climate" plot that did work but was stopped before it got too bad. The second was a fly invasion plot caused by another rival of Dregg's and the Turtles had to save everyone; even Dregg.

3. Most successful: Shredder somehow returns to Earth and follows the Turtles and Splinter to Japan where Splinter will be cured and return to lead a new clan since the turtles don't need him. Shredder frames him again and they all wind up in jail. All works out and Shredder jumps off a waterfall to avoid capture and... escapes. The rest of the season revolves around a new villain from the future who brutalizes the Turtles and they can temporary powers (like Power rangers and Metallic Armour, Super Dino Mode, etc.) to help when needed. Then said villain links with Krang and it turns out the energy contained within the Turtles can power Krang's new Technodrome and make it invincible. So the season is spent leading up to the big finale which finishes Krang off for good. Oh, and Shredder survived and has a new Cyber Armor like in Radical Rescue.

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 11-21-2017, 11:10 AM

Say if the original cartoon was still running in 2017, having hit the 800 episode mark or something.

I'm really curious as to how the animation would've been compared to the original 1987-1996 run.

the show probably would've stopped being produced using hand drawn animation somewhere in the late 2000s and instead using flash to achieve a similar look, really like how the Wanted Bebop and Rocksteady episodes of Nick used flash animation to look almost identical to the original toon.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 11-21-2017, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cammy85

Shredder frames him again and they all wind up in jail.

Arrested by Shredder's younger brother Kazuo Saki, Toyo policeman!

*neatoman* · 11-21-2017, 11:32 AM

It would be a nightmare.

*CyberCubed* · 11-21-2017, 11:43 AM

Most likely the show would have been revamped for a darker more continuity approach as we got to 1998-2000's to mimic most other action cartoons at the time.

Something on 2k3's level would have probably happened. The 2k3 series was a mix of anime and action oriented storylines because it came out in the early 2000's.

*plastroncafe* · 11-21-2017, 12:01 PM

I'm sure there's a fanfic for this...

cammy85 · 11-21-2017, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

Arrested by Shredder's younger brother Kazuo Saki, Toyo policeman!

That should've happened for sure!! Get Shredder was perfect and it would've worked if not for having to stop Berserko's Annihilator.

*pferreira* · 11-23-2017, 09:02 AM

Well for one thing it would be done digitally. Also I imagine the cartoon going through a bunch of series with titles like "TMNT Taskforce" or "Extreme TMNT".

It would be cool although for some fans it would be a nightmare so cool.

*CyberCubed* · 11-23-2017, 11:42 AM

Most likely it would have been rebranded with new designs, a new title, and new animation every few years or so. They'd probably keep the same continuity and voice actors unless they retired or didn't want to do it anymore.

Shredder might have been revamped to become more of a real villain with better plans and designs. We probably would have gotten more Mirage concepts similar to the 2k3 series.

Either way I always saw the 2k3 series as the natural successor to what TMNT would have been in the early 2000's. The 2k3 series mixed action with anime-esque scenes and storytelling and was reflective of what cartoons were like in the early 2000's.

*snake* · 11-23-2017, 12:12 PM

There is no feasible way this could've happened in any reality.

*CyberCubed* · 11-23-2017, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by snake

There is no feasible way this could've happened in any reality.

I don't know, other long running shows like Simpsons, Pokemon, Spongebob, etc. show its possible for the same show to run for decades with just slight alterations or updates.

*snake* · 11-23-2017, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I don't know, other long running shows like Simpsons, Pokemon, Spongebob, etc. show its possible for the same show to run for decades with just slight alterations or updates.

The OT does not have the staying power of any of those. 2 are comedy shows, which can run indefinitely, and Pokemon has a format that lends to this treatment. TMNT does not.

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 11-23-2017, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by snake

There is no feasible way this could've happened in any reality.

*Prowler* · 11-25-2017, 02:54 PM

...it would have eventually been forced into cancellation. So it would have lasted... 1-2 more seasons? And perhaps Shredder and Krang would return and lose to the Turtles in a big final battle?

The TMNT fad was already dying around 1993. The last 3 seasons of the FW series had 8 episodes each only ,and the last season didn't even have a toyline afaik. Hell no Red Sky characters got toys, did they?

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 11-25-2017, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler

...it would have eventually been forced into cancellation. So it would have lasted... 1-2 more seasons? And perhaps Shredder and Krang would return and lose to the Turtles in a big final battle?

The TMNT fad was already dying around 1993. The last 3 seasons of the FW series had 8 episodes each only ,and the last season didn't even have a toyline afaik. Hell no Red Sky characters got toys, did they?

Here are the 1996 toy releases

http://www.tmnttoys.com/figures1987.html#1996

But you're right, no seasons 8-10 toys

dragonside · 11-25-2017, 03:51 PM

unlike other huge long running series that come to mind.

I think TMNT could have, but they would need either a:

MASSIVE Adventure and character development (like the One Piece Anime). Personally, I'd love to see something like this.

Comedy only series (sort of like the Simpsons, Family Guy)

I think the 1987 series fit in the action adventure with comedy.

One final thought is literally just adapting TMNT Adventures comics into a cartoon, which I would have enjoyed greatly.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 11-25-2017, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonside

One final thought is literally just adapting TMNT Adventures comics into a cartoon, which I would have enjoyed greatly.

I'ld say: Take some great Archie elements (international trips to Brazil and Japan, Armaggon and Verminator X and the Mutanimals somehow forming a group).

But in now way, I would want it to last forever.

11-20-2017, 04:42 PM	#1
FredWolfLeonardo Big Blue Boy Scout Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: New Bark Town Posts: 4,474	What if the Original Tmnt cartoon never ended? Imagine if after 193 episodes, it was decided that the original tmnt cartoon was not cancelled but rather renewed for many more seasons in the indefinete future, reaching the status of long running animated shows like Simpsons, Pokemon and Spongebob. What do you think it would've been like?

11-20-2017, 04:47 PM	#2
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 15,234	Honestly...? I think the storytelling would have just gone downhill after a while. Much the way the Sponge has while they continue to try to keep it alive after so long. Although I suppose they could have instead of making it officially separate series it could have at some point had different "chapters" that took on a new tone, art style and increased their age slowly. Freshening it up a bit and continuing, much like the darn Power Rangers that seemed to have kept going while changing people and themes a little (I think?) now and then.

11-20-2017, 05:10 PM	#3
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,155	A lot of plots contradicting each other, time passing and the turtles not aging with them. I'm glad it was allowed to rest in peace for at least 13 years.

11-21-2017, 09:20 AM	#4
cammy85 Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Minnedosa, MB Canada Posts: 703	I had three different ideas when I was younger: 1. replaces seasons 8-10 altogether and just has S+K on Earth for a few episodes before returning to Dimension X and then resuming as normal. Before returning to the Technodrome, they acquire a sophisticated lab that Baxter fly took over with some aliens and finally returned to human form... only to be properly incarcerated. Oops!! 2. Dregg and Mung are still together somehow (remember Dregg blasted Hitech in Doomquest and he didn't abandon Dregg?) and only had two episodes; each ripping off old plots. The first was a more sophisticated "reverse the world's climate" plot that did work but was stopped before it got too bad. The second was a fly invasion plot caused by another rival of Dregg's and the Turtles had to save everyone; even Dregg. 3. Most successful: Shredder somehow returns to Earth and follows the Turtles and Splinter to Japan where Splinter will be cured and return to lead a new clan since the turtles don't need him. Shredder frames him again and they all wind up in jail. All works out and Shredder jumps off a waterfall to avoid capture and... escapes. The rest of the season revolves around a new villain from the future who brutalizes the Turtles and they can temporary powers (like Power rangers and Metallic Armour, Super Dino Mode, etc.) to help when needed. Then said villain links with Krang and it turns out the energy contained within the Turtles can power Krang's new Technodrome and make it invincible. So the season is spent leading up to the big finale which finishes Krang off for good. Oh, and Shredder survived and has a new Cyber Armor like in Radical Rescue.

11-21-2017, 11:10 AM	#5
FredWolfLeonardo Big Blue Boy Scout Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: New Bark Town Posts: 4,474	Say if the original cartoon was still running in 2017, having hit the 800 episode mark or something. I'm really curious as to how the animation would've been compared to the original 1987-1996 run. the show probably would've stopped being produced using hand drawn animation somewhere in the late 2000s and instead using flash to achieve a similar look, really like how the Wanted Bebop and Rocksteady episodes of Nick used flash animation to look almost identical to the original toon.

11-21-2017, 11:43 AM	#8
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,031	Most likely the show would have been revamped for a darker more continuity approach as we got to 1998-2000's to mimic most other action cartoons at the time. Something on 2k3's level would have probably happened. The 2k3 series was a mix of anime and action oriented storylines because it came out in the early 2000's.

11-23-2017, 09:02 AM	#11
pferreira Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,514	Well for one thing it would be done digitally. Also I imagine the cartoon going through a bunch of series with titles like "TMNT Taskforce" or "Extreme TMNT". It would be cool although for some fans it would be a nightmare so cool.

11-23-2017, 11:42 AM	#12
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,031	Most likely it would have been rebranded with new designs, a new title, and new animation every few years or so. They'd probably keep the same continuity and voice actors unless they retired or didn't want to do it anymore. Shredder might have been revamped to become more of a real villain with better plans and designs. We probably would have gotten more Mirage concepts similar to the 2k3 series. Either way I always saw the 2k3 series as the natural successor to what TMNT would have been in the early 2000's. The 2k3 series mixed action with anime-esque scenes and storytelling and was reflective of what cartoons were like in the early 2000's.

11-23-2017, 12:12 PM	#13
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,230	There is no feasible way this could've happened in any reality.

11-25-2017, 02:54 PM	#17
Prowler Emperor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portugal Posts: 8,909	...it would have eventually been forced into cancellation. So it would have lasted... 1-2 more seasons? And perhaps Shredder and Krang would return and lose to the Turtles in a big final battle? The TMNT fad was already dying around 1993. The last 3 seasons of the FW series had 8 episodes each only ,and the last season didn't even have a toyline afaik. Hell no Red Sky characters got toys, did they?

11-25-2017, 03:51 PM	#19
dragonside Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 476	unlike other huge long running series that come to mind. I think TMNT could have, but they would need either a: MASSIVE Adventure and character development (like the One Piece Anime). Personally, I'd love to see something like this. Comedy only series (sort of like the Simpsons, Family Guy) I think the 1987 series fit in the action adventure with comedy. One final thought is literally just adapting TMNT Adventures comics into a cartoon, which I would have enjoyed greatly.