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Old 07-15-2017, 08:54 PM   #1
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The greatest tragedy of all.

The greatest tragedy of all is the irrepairable damage done to the Turtles reputation, why? you might ask, TMNT, the REAL TMNT, is a dark, mature comic about four pet Red Earred Slider Turtles that got mutated by an accident and were raised to be Ninjas by a Rat, who was also mutated, to avenge the death of his owner, Hamato Yoshi, at the hands of Oroku Saki better known as The Shredder, who have to live in the sewers because of their appearance, who are trying to find their place in the world because they are the first, last and only ones of their kind, However because of the FW cartoon and its spawn most people know TMNT only through the cartoons or the movies, which are bastardized, dumbed down, kiddified, abominations, which portray the Turtles as immature, goofy, characters, who are addicted to Pizza and talk like surfers from California.
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Old 07-15-2017, 09:01 PM   #2
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Um, yeah... welcome to the forums. Did you catch the name of this website's inspiration?
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Old 07-15-2017, 09:02 PM   #3
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Old 07-15-2017, 09:03 PM   #4
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Mirage TMNT had some comedy as the series progressed. Also, a lot of people know about the original comics, from liking the franchise in general, or by the IDW reprints.
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Um, yeah... welcome to the forums. Did you catch the name of this website's inspiration?
Yeah, the Technodrome is from the cartoon, but doesn't it make anyone else sad that the general public sees the franchise as childish because of it?
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Old 07-15-2017, 09:12 PM   #6
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Yeah, the Technodrome is from the cartoon, but doesn't it make anyone else sad that the general public sees the franchise as childish because of it?
Andrew, did you start a second user account for fun and fancy free?
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Old 07-15-2017, 09:26 PM   #7
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Andrew, did you start a second user account for fun and fancy free?
You would think so! If not... well, we found his new possible BFF. I'm sure you will be very happy together.


Honestly, while I respect some people's sole preferences for Mirage, if it's only that, I do wonder how people even hang onto TMNT then if they so dislike everything else... I mean, in that case, it's like its heyday and the only part that mattered is long gone, right?


Personally... just as comics have allowed many artists to lend their own art style, I look at the various iterations the same way. I might not like every version or every art style, but they aren't exactly "ruined" unless the world stops loving them... And in that case, whoever was behind it would be the worst person ever.



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Old 07-15-2017, 09:59 PM   #8
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The greatest tragedy of all is the irrepairable damage done to the Turtles reputation, why? you might ask, TMNT, the REAL TMNT, is a dark, mature comic about four pet Red Earred Slider Turtles that got mutated by an accident and were raised to be Ninjas by a Rat, who was also mutated, to avenge the death of his owner, Hamato Yoshi, at the hands of Oroku Saki better known as The Shredder, who have to live in the sewers because of their appearance, who are trying to find their place in the world because they are the first, last and only ones of their kind, However because of the FW cartoon and its spawn most people know TMNT only through the cartoons or the movies, which are bastardized, dumbed down, kiddified, abominations, which portray the Turtles as immature, goofy, characters, who are addicted to Pizza and talk like surfers from California.
Damn...you opened my eyes with this original statement.

Really makes you think....
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Yeah, the Technodrome is from the cartoon, but doesn't it make anyone else sad that the general public sees the franchise as childish because of it?
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Old 07-16-2017, 12:36 AM   #10
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Everyone has made those complaints at some point. What you're saying is nothing new and hardly insightful. At this point, you're basically just venting.

You can complain all you want and wish things were different, but it's not going to change anything, nor change the opinions of those who enjoy the cartoon versions, or at least aspects of it.
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Old 07-16-2017, 01:47 AM   #12
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Andrew was the true plant all along, and now his saplings are here to destroy us.
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Andrew isn't the only one who thinks the franchise is held back by the ghost of Fred Wolf, you know.
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Andrew isn't the only one who thinks the franchise is held back by the ghost of Fred Wolf, you know.
Sure, it's just that Markwyatt's statement is eerily similar to something Andrew would write, even brings up that detail about red-eared sliders.

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Yeah, the Technodrome is from the cartoon, but doesn't it make anyone else sad that the general public sees the franchise as childish because of it?
Sure, it's just that I'm not convinced the FW cartoon is going to stay in the public's mind forever, so I'm not really that bothered by it.
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Yeah, the Technodrome is from the cartoon, but doesn't it make anyone else sad that the general public sees the franchise as childish because of it?
They wanted to market the thing towards kids. They couldn't keep the more mature themes of the comics and make it into a show aimed at kids back in the 80s. It wouldn't have flown, despite the fact the 87 series started in syndication. Once it hit the "big 3" and had a Saturday morning time slot, forget it.

I don't have much of a problem with the animated series being aimed at kids given how they sell toys along with those animated incarnations. Who play with toys? Kids. If the animated shows didn't have all that merchandising behind it, it probably wouldn't be as kiddy.

The thing about this franchise is that there's something for everyone. You have the different comic versions (Archie, IDW, Mirage), your live action films, etc.

It's not going to appeal to everyone, but at least one of those mediums or versions will more than likely if you're a fan of the franchise.
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Old 07-16-2017, 06:36 AM   #16
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Sure, it's just that Markwyatt's statement is eerily similar to something Andrew would write, even brings up that detail about red-eared sliders
Probably because this isn't their first rodeo.

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Old 07-16-2017, 07:52 AM   #17
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Do we seriously have another duplicate account from a former/current user?

Here we go again.
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Old 07-16-2017, 08:13 AM   #19
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However because of the FW cartoon and its spawn most people know TMNT only through the cartoons or the movies, which are bastardized, dumbed down, kiddified, abominations, which portray the Turtles as immature, goofy, characters, who are addicted to Pizza and talk like surfers from California.
Tbh FW/Nick origin is more acceptable than the comic origin (human ninja master turned rat, rather than being trained by a pet rat who mimicked its master).

So no, you don't get to diss FW you sad man.
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