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Old 11-08-2017, 06:19 PM   #401
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In cases where Yoshi became Splinter and a little DNA mixing may be involved, then I gotta agree with her that if they've got a touch of human in them from Splinter than they'd indeed be Japanese.

Unless... the kid in other versions last touched them (or a pet shop owner), then who knows.



Although when voice actors taken into consideration... until the next series mixes it up, so far they've been a bunch of 'green apples' much of the time, so to speak.
I mean they've been raised by a rodent who used to be a Japanese man, or a rodent who was the pet rat of a Japanese man, so yeah it kinda makes sense.

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Pretty sure he could if he was given the direction. He did more of an accent in the first 5 eps. Actually I kinda think Nick Shredder was basically told to sound just like Trigon and forgot "oh yea, he's Japanese too".

The Turtles basically acted and talked white, C'mon you all know this, even though technically they're Turtles. If all 4 of them were cast by black VAs and spoke will all sorts of black slang, I know fans would have been calling them the black turtles even though, again, they're Turtles not human. Same if they were voiced by and sounded Hispanic. It doesn't change the fact that they're turtles and not humans, but you still would have people making green card jokes.
Do all Black american people use that slang you're talking about? I seriously doubt so. Also, the Turtles have always been depicted as being into things that the youth is currently into. They tend to like rock and rap music, and also like to surf and skateboard. It's not just White people who surf, skateboard and like rock and rap music.

So yeah, it's silly to equate the Turtles to human "races" or nationalities since they're Turtles and not human. They've been influenced by Japanese culture through Splinter and by American pop culture through TV and living in NYC. That's the closest they get to being human.
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Old 11-08-2017, 06:39 PM   #402
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I mean they've been raised by a rodent who used to be a Japanese man, or a rodent who was the pet rat of a Japanese man, so yeah it kinda makes sense.


Do all Black american people use that slang you're talking about? I seriously doubt so. Also, the Turtles have always been depicted as being into things that the youth is currently into. They tend to like rock and rap music, and also like to surf and skateboard. It's not just White people who surf, skateboard and like rock and rap music.

So yeah, it's silly to equate the Turtles to human "races" or nationalities since they're Turtles and not human. They've been influenced by Japanese culture through Splinter and by American pop culture through TV and living in NYC. That's the closest they get to being human.
Yeah. Claiming that there's such thing as "acting white" or "talking black" is pretty ignorant.
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Old 11-08-2017, 06:41 PM   #403
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In the new 2018 cartoon both Raphael and Michelangelo also have black voice actors for the first time. Given these actors sound like they're using just slightly altered versions of their regular real life voices for the Turtles, I guess two of the Turtles will still have a black type of voice in the show.
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Old 11-08-2017, 06:44 PM   #404
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He's black as fu*k. And voiced by Bumper Robinson.

I guess he doesn't qualify as African American to cubed because he doesn't say things like "yessa massa", "sup dawg", "yo", "kill whitey" and "shee-it negro!"
All this talk of race reminds me of this golden oldie by Nines.
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:23 PM   #405
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In the new 2018 cartoon both Raphael and Michelangelo also have black voice actors for the first time. Given these actors sound like they're using just slightly altered versions of their regular real life voices for the Turtles, I guess two of the Turtles will still have a black type of voice in the show.
Too soon to tell.
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:29 PM   #406
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The weirdest slang the Nick cartoon got away with is Michelangelo saying, "What's up, my ninja's?" to his brothers. He said it in at least two different episodes as well.

As you guys know, "What's up my ninja's?" is clearly based on something else that I can't post here. Hint: See Rush Hour 1 when Jackie Chan says it to the black guy in the bar.
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:33 PM   #407
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The weirdest slang the Nick cartoon got away with is Michelangelo saying, "What's up, my ninja's?" to his brothers. He said it in at least two different episodes as well.

As you guys know, "What's up my ninja's?" is clearly based on something else that I can't post here. Hint: See Rush Hour 1 when Jackie Chan says it to the black guy in the bar.
I remember those TMNT 'Ninja Please' shirts that got some backlash. I forgot if those were legit or like fake fan shirts or something.
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:35 PM   #408
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Wait, why are we assuming April O'Neil identifies as female in the new cartoon?
Nice one!

Don't worry, soon creators go to it, when it'll become "new pandering hotness".
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:05 PM   #409
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I wish I could find the thread where one guy mentioned Shredder being black and posting screen caps as evidence anyone remember it? I tried searching but couldn't find it.

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Do those even exist anymore? I mean outside of, like, parts of Utah or something?
That was literally my school, only one black kid in all of the High School, and not to say stereotypes are true but most of the parking lot were trucks and if they weren't then hummers.
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Old 11-08-2017, 10:41 PM   #410
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No, his girlfriend was latina, the character was meant to be white, I did my research and there's some confusion but she was not intended to be another race, at least that we can find any evidence of.
But Kevin said his girlfriend was African American and I don't see why he would lie about that.
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Old 11-08-2017, 10:57 PM   #411
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Maybe he got confused.
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:12 PM   #412
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That was literally my school, only one black kid in all of the High School
But how long ago was that? Even when I was a kid, it was like... maybe 50% white, 50% everything else.
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But how long ago was that? Even when I was a kid, it was like... maybe 50% white, 50% everything else.
Small City, Southern Missouri, 10 years ago.

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But Kevin said his girlfriend was African American and I don't see why he would lie about that.
odd, the latina thing came up in more than one place.
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:41 PM   #414
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Nowadays everyone is mixed. The only white people in my school were Russians. They all came from Mother Russia.
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Old 11-09-2017, 12:40 AM   #415
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Nowadays everyone is mixed. The only white people in my school were Russians. They all came from Mother Russia.
Did they have vodka drinking bears with balalaikas and ushankas?
If not, than they must have been Polish disguising themselves as Russians.
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Old 11-09-2017, 10:45 AM   #416
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From now on anything is possible.

It's only a matter of time until we get a gay Ninja Turtle, guys. And then one of the various "LGBT in TMNT" threads will be bumped once it's confirmed. And I'm going even further and say that they'll try the female turtle idea again. Maybe they'll bring back Venus with a different origin and personality.
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Old 11-09-2017, 11:01 AM   #417
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Someday Tang Shen is totally gonna live for once, move to NYC with Yoshi (or without?) and she'll end up mutating into Venus and be the Turtles' mom.
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Has this turned into a "everyone become Cybercubed" thread?
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Old 11-09-2017, 11:12 AM   #419
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Someday Tang Shen is totally gonna live for once, move to NYC with Yoshi (or without?) and she'll end up mutating into Venus and be the Turtles' mom.
I'd be down for that . It would even out Splinter's mutation, because she'd be the one trying to pull them out of the Ooze. Then Splinter, having handled rats recently, would step in the mutagen by accident after seeing what was going on.
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Old 11-09-2017, 12:00 PM   #420
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Some universes ignore Tang Shen altogether. She never existed in the original cartoon, so Hamato Yoshi never had a girlfriend/wife in that series.
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