TMNT Universe #11 Preview and Discussion

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by DestronMirage22

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That was kinda lame. The story felt kinda rushed and the new characters definitely could've been more developed. Dreadmon came off like a jerk. I mean, he was COMPLETELY willing to go with those guys and then when Ray shows up he suddenly goes with him? Yeah, I'm glad he didn't join the Mutanimals in the end.

I did enjoy the little character development for Ray and Sally, though. It's definitely been needed. The art was also really nice, a cool blend of traditional and cartoony styles.

Eh, they can't all be winners. To me this was perfectly serviceable, not great but I don't think it's meant to be.

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac

So...does this look like a future Rocksteady-ManRay battle to anyone else?
https://68.media.tumblr.com/74ba8642...rw8miz_540.png

Maybe, could just be a common reference.

[myconius]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I wouldn't mind giving Dreadmon a second chance, especially with his backstory.

But I'm lying if I said I didn't want that second chance to involve him meeting a skeptical Old Hob.

i'm going to have to re-read the issue again to see if maybe i'm not being too hard on Dreadmon.

though i'm more eager to re-read it for the Sally and Ray content.

Ray is quickly becoming my favorite Mutanimal.

"what is the saying Agent? this isn't my first rodeo?"

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by myconius

i'm going to have to re-read the issue again to see if maybe i'm not being too hard on Dreadmon.

though i'm more eager to re-read it for the Sally and Ray content.

Ray is quickly becoming my favorite Mutanimal.

"what is the saying Agent? this isn't my first rodeo?"

One benefit of Dreadmon running off into the woods is that the Mutanimals roster doesn't outpace character development.

At this point, I feel like all of the Mutanimals have a sufficient amount of background and development. That's not to say that IDW should stop focusing on them, but we're past the point where "who the hell is the lioness in a leather jacket, anyway!?"

[Ninjinister]

Didn't expect the mercs to be

Spoiler:

The Gang of Four

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Ninjinister

Didn't expect the mercs to be

Spoiler:

The Gang of Four

That's a missed opportunity right there, they should've called them

Spoiler:

The Fangs of Four

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Ninjinister

Didn't expect the mercs to be

Spoiler:

The Gang of Four

I had to look it up to see what you meant, you're right. I didn't remember the name of that group, much less their individual names, so I really didn't notice any connection. Good on you man, I'd never notice it on my own!

Still, different gimmick this time around, you think they're gonna use different mutant forms down the line?

[ToTheNines]

No backup? Gimme my dollar back.

[DestronMirage22]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

No backup? Gimme my dollar back.

Yeah, that and more adds than usual were also reasons for this being a less-than-spectacular issue

[Bobby Curnow]

(FYI: the main story was 24 pages-- same amount of content as previous Universe issues)

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I was actually glad to not have a backup... haven't liked any of them yet. Well, the Pepperoni one was okay but not my taste. The others, though, I wouldn't hesitate to call boring.

And is the Gang of Four an Archie thing? Because when I think of cyborg mercenaries in TMNT, I think of Wilson, Jackson, and the third one who worked for Pimiko and shot Donnie all to hell in the first story arc of TMNT Volume 3!

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Bobby Curnow

(FYI: the main story was 24 pages-- same amount of content as previous Universe issues)

Haha, I'd noticed it read longer than past Universe issues. Just being a smart ass. I shouldn't make this public, but I would spend $20 per book if that was the cover price.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I was actually glad to not have a backup... haven't liked any of them yet. Well, the Pepperoni one was okay but not my taste. The others, though, I wouldn't hesitate to call boring.

And is the Gang of Four an Archie thing? Because when I think of cyborg mercenaries in TMNT, I think of Wilson, Jackson, and the third one who worked for Pimiko and shot Donnie all to hell in the first story arc of TMNT Volume 3!

Yep, Gang of Four was from the archie comics.
http://turtlepedia.wikia.com/wiki/Gang_of_Four
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/the-g...ur/4060-56435/

[MikeandRaph87]

So the Gang of Four made their debut as hunans with a controlled mutation? That was unexpected. Also the authorization for non-lethsl caoture vonsidering what they are known for. Are there direct analogs of each member or only the fact its a quartet of mercanaries hired to capture Dreadmon?

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

And is the Gang of Four an Archie thing? !

The Gang of Four work for Null and literally kill the entire Mutanimals in Archie. They kill Man Ray, Leatherhead, Mondo Gecko, Dreadmon, Jagwar and Wingnut/Screwloose.

Makes you wonder if the same thing will happen in this series....

[myconius]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The Gang of Four work for Null and literally kill the entire Mutanimals in Archie. They kill Man Ray, Leatherhead, Mondo Gecko, Dreadmon, Jagwar and Wingnut/Screwloose.

Makes you wonder if the same thing will happen in this series....

i wouldn't think that we'll just get a repeat of the past.

most things in this series have been a fresh reinvention/reimagining.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The Gang of Four work for Null and literally kill the entire Mutanimals in Archie. They kill Man Ray, Leatherhead, Mondo Gecko, Dreadmon, Jagwar and Wingnut/Screwloose.

Makes you wonder if the same thing will happen in this series....

IDW is not killing off the Mutanimals. They've killed exactly ONE main character so far: Oroku Saki.

Nick does still call the shots, and THAT is a shot that ain't ever gonna get called.

[MikeandRaph87]

It was titled "The Jersey Devil" yet the Jersey Devil also known as Chris Christie did not appear!

We saw Darius Dunn and Victor die as well. Major or minor they appeared in more than one arc.

I think the Gang of Four will die. Perhaps the Mutanimals can get poetic justice across incarnations.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

It was titled "The Jersey Devil" yet the Jersey Devil also known as Chris Christie did not appear!

We saw Darius Dunn and Victor die as well. Major or minor they appeared in more than one arc.

I think the Gang of Four will die. Perhaps the Mutanimals can get poetic justice across incarnations.

Excellent political humor, my friend.

Oh, right, Darius Dunn. Yeah, that was a good ending. So TWO characters. I'm not counting Victor, that guy was 0% character and 100% cannon fodder. Dunn was a character, if minor. He did more than just get killed (although Cubed would probably disagree with me).

The Null storyline keeps feeding us all these interesting tidbits... interdimensional, CEO of a global conglomerate, working AGAINST Bishop, created more mutants like Zodi (is she half-human?) and Dreadmon, the Gang of Four, demutation technology, working AGAINST Stockman, Roadkill Rodneys, trying to mainstream mutant slavery, combination mutants...

Damnit, I am ZEALOUS to get to that Null story!

[myconius]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

IDW is not killing off the Mutanimals. They've killed exactly ONE main character so far: Oroku Saki.

Nick does still call the shots, and THAT is a shot that ain't ever gonna get called.

well even though they brought them back, they did kill Hamato Yoshi and his sons.

how many supporting characters have been killed so far? Savate Ninja (issue#6), Victor, Professor Miller, Darius Dunn, Stockman's guards (Tmnt:U#1), Bishop's Dad . . .

those are the only ones that jump out at me off the top of my head.

OH! and that unfortunate rat that got goggled up in issue #36!
poor Squeaky!

[myconius]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

I think the Gang of Four will die. Perhaps the Mutanimals can get poetic justice across incarnations.

i think only three of them will die.

and they'll then be known as 'the gang of one'.