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Old 11-14-2017, 05:35 PM   #281
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I hate to tell you this, but lots of people would mind if they were gay.
Wait... I know that. I've worded my post a bit poorly, my bad. What I mean is, you're way more likely to find more support for gay turtles than for turtlecest. Turtlecest is kinda seen as the odd part of the fandom. In comparison, gay turtles does look like a much better option. Point a gun(not literelly!) at someone and ask them "The turtles have to be A)gay or B) have sex with each other". I think A would win by a landslide.
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So I've watched some of April O'Neil's "videos." They were OK, the lesbian massage ones were the best ones. I skimmed through some of the others, but eh.

I've seen better.
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Old 11-14-2017, 05:36 PM   #282
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I hate to tell you this, but lots of people would mind if they were gay.
To be fair, I think its more down to the turtles being mutants whom people would not want to see in any sexual relationship, whether its homo or hetero.

If its a crush without any advances and just homosexual tendencies, I doubt most people would mind, even if they don't support it. I don't even think a homosexual relationship between two human characters would even cause that much controversy.
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Old 11-14-2017, 05:37 PM   #283
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The only gay relationship I want to see going forward is Karai and Shinigami in a future TMNT incarnation. The idea of Karai having a girlfriend is probably the best idea in TMNT history in years.
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Old 11-14-2017, 05:39 PM   #284
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To be fair, I think its more down to the turtles being mutants whom people would not want to see in any sexual relationship, whether its homo or hetero.

If its a crush without any advances or just homosexual tendencies, I doubt most people would mind, even if they don't support it.
Generally I prefer romance to stay minimal in the TMNT franchise. As in CaseyxApril being enough as far as romance in TMNT goes. But I don't mind if the Turtles have crushes on female mutants, even if they're foxes or something. But Turtles and humans? No thanks. This isn't Sonic 2006.
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Old 11-14-2017, 10:14 PM   #285
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What I mean is, you're way more likely to find more support for gay turtles than for turtlecest.
Agree and have thought that for a while... I'd be far more comfortable with one of them being gay, and never would with the brothers, er, being put with each other. If that's some people's thing, more power to them, that's their business, but no thank you.... that does not need to be made mainstream.

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Okay, admit if Leo was made the gay one I might not be too crazy about it... I'd rather he remain who he is with his occasional human lady crushes and all. I don't really mind that my boy has an appreciation of us human type womenz.

There will always be an open invite (for a grown Leo) for a snuggle should their fictional universe magically pop into existence and collide with ours. I'd rather keep that tiny pretend thought that he might accept, thanks.



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Old 11-14-2017, 10:15 PM   #286
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Btw, I had totally forgotten Davetello had made this thread.
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So I've watched some of April O'Neil's "videos." They were OK, the lesbian massage ones were the best ones. I skimmed through some of the others, but eh.

I've seen better.
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Old 11-14-2017, 10:42 PM   #287
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I think it would be an interesting thing to explore, one day. Although, most of my hopes of seeing it ever happen died when Laird handed Nickelodeon the keys. But hey, I'd love to be proven wrong, some day!

In any case, one of the more compelling and tragic aspects of TMNT, when done right, is acknowledging that the 4 bros are in a predicament where they're the only ones of their kind. So already, the idea of having kids of their own is a non-factor (unless Donnie does something about that through SCIENCE!!!, one day).

Therefore, whatever type of bonds the guys may form with others, even possibly romantic ones, should probably be something that speaks to a deeper connection. And I think that's entirely possible (depending on the writer and series), whether the turtle ends up with a male or female partner.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:22 PM   #288
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I think it would be an interesting thing to explore, one day. Although, most of my hopes of seeing it ever happen died when Laird handed Nickelodeon the keys. But hey, I'd love to be proven wrong, some day!
Huh? What makes you think Laird would ever tread into those waters? No way.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:31 PM   #289
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He is the guy who saw the turtles as more asexual, though. Different spectrum, but similar zone of "uncomfortable" that the "execs" usually don't want to deal with.

Though, since Nick has been using gay characters more frequently in the last couple years (such as Korrasami and multiple occasions within The Loud House), I think they might muster up something. I think it's more likely that they'd use a different character than one of the turtles first, to test the waters.

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I mean come on, Bebop and Rocksteady got pretty friendly as time went on in the Nick series in spite of their past history.
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Old 11-15-2017, 08:24 AM   #290
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But the turtles can't actually be ace, because if they are admittedly asexual the usual clown car of bigots would get all up in arms.
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Old 11-15-2017, 08:46 AM   #291
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Leo and Raph are gay incest for each other anyway.
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Old 11-15-2017, 08:59 AM   #292
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But the turtles can't actually be ace, because if they are admittedly asexual the usual clown car of bigots would get all up in arms.
Haven't the turtles always been asexual, though?

Shouldn't the correct term be "aromantic"?
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Old 11-15-2017, 04:36 PM   #293
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Leo and Raph are gay incest for each other anyway.
*shoves Shark Blade out of the thread*

Actually no... Let me go find them in some parallel universe so they can stop by this one and deal with you themselves. Brb.




Really though, it would be less forced I would think if it was simply a new friend (preferably a new important supporting character, not a one ep character that is never seen again) introduced to the show who you just catch on that he/she is probably gay, but it isn't some kind of big thing, nor a big deal, because that detail isn't actually important to the series.


No, I wouldn't agree that they've "always been asexual." Not with some of the crushes and whatnot they've had. Just because you can't eventually get any wouldn't make you asexual. (Although if you take the franchise as a whole, it can't really be said that some of them haven't at some point, since they kinda have... be it human, alien, or other sentient species.)
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Old 11-15-2017, 04:54 PM   #294
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Haven't the turtles always been asexual, though?

Shouldn't the correct term be "aromantic"?
Not in any of the the versions of canon I'm the most familiar with.
But we can fanwank anything if we try hard enough.

I'd be curious to see a Venn Diagram of folks who think the turtles should be devoid of any romantic/sexual desires at all, with the folks who go out of their way to sneer at any sexual identity that isn't heterosexual.

My feeling is that diagram would be a circle.
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Old 11-15-2017, 05:11 PM   #295
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In Mirage:

* Leonardo eventually got with and settled down with Radical. A lot of people also like to see something that wasn't there in his initial dealings with Karai.
* Donatello seemed downright smitten with Jhanna by the end of their meetup.
* To me, Raphael appeared to have more than a simply platonic interest in Lucindra. But maybe it was nothing.
* Michelangelo has had two girlfriends and possibly had kids with the most recent one.

Beyond possibly Raphael, anything coming out (no pun intended) now or in the future about any of the Turtles being outed as homosexuals is just reimaginings/fanwank/what-can-we-do-to-stir-the-pot kind of fare, particularly in a world now where the Turtles' creators don't really have the final say on anything anymore.
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Old 11-15-2017, 11:18 PM   #296
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My feeling is that diagram would be a circle.
Very fat trolling.
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Old 11-15-2017, 11:22 PM   #297
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Wow who rezzed the necrothre.... Oh nevermind. Cubed. Of course.

My thoughts on this are about the same as they were 3 years ago. Would I care much? Not really (I'm still saying Don or Raph as most likely.) I do like the idea of Casey being gay or bi. Karai too. April just seems less likely but if they ever bring Irma in again I could see her going that way. Leo might be interesting but I'm not sure how well it would work.
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:50 AM   #298
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If they ever do, the cartoon would have to be aimed at the older crowd. If not you're gonna get all the idiots yelling out 'THE CHILDREN!! THE CHILDREN!!' and all that crap and accusing TMNT of turning their kids gay and all that garbage.
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If they ever do, the cartoon would have to be aimed at the older crowd. If not you're gonna get all the idiots yelling out 'THE CHILDREN!! THE CHILDREN!!' and all that crap and accusing TMNT of turning their kids gay and all that garbage.
In the current climate you might end up with people who scream about opposite, "how dare all Turtles be heterosexual (?) and don't propagate healthiness of homosexual relationships, it means that creators are horrible homophobes".
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