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Old 07-09-2014, 07:32 PM   #21
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While I never gave April a thought, I always wanted Casey to be portrayed by a Black man.
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Old 07-09-2014, 07:41 PM   #22
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Alright, found the reference I was thinking of...

In Eastman's "Artobiography" he says that April was concepted in Pete's notes as an Asian character and then named after a black woman that Kevin once knew. So I think that's about as black as she's going to officially get.

The idea of an Asian April, however, seems like it would've fit nicely with the whole Japan/martial arts angle. Though thinking about it, that may have been exactly why they opted not to go that route - perhaps it'd make the book even more "asianish" then they were looking for.
?????Where is this source???? I swore April was suppose to be hispanic, I thought Eastman and Laird noted it in the Ultimate collection notes??
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Old 07-09-2014, 07:42 PM   #23
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While I never gave April a thought, I always wanted Casey to be portrayed by a Black man.
you basically just want Shaft?
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Old 07-09-2014, 08:17 PM   #24
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?????Where is this source???? I swore April was suppose to be hispanic, I thought Eastman and Laird noted it in the Ultimate collection notes??
Eastman's "Artobiography"
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:23 PM   #25
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TBH, Mirage April always came across as mixed to me with the way her hair was.
Ditto; I always read Mirage April as being black or mixed.

I have zero problems with a black April, or a Latino April, or an Asian April - it'd just be another evolution of the character and could be really positive. Either way - I honestly can't understand why people would get their knickers in a twist over it.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:37 PM   #26
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Obviously it's not set in stone or anything, but "O'Neil" is a VERY Gaelic, Irish-Protestant name with a long history (although it later spread into some Scottish families as well). At the very least, it's about 99% most likely that anyone with that last name would be of Celtic descent. Obviously, names get legally changed, passed around through marriage, things like that. But statistically speaking, a non-Caucasian with that name would be super-rare.

Stranger things have happened. I worked for a white Irish guy whose last name was Juarez. Still no idea how THAT happened.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:41 PM   #27
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Obviously it's not set in stone or anything, but "O'Neil" is a VERY Gaelic, Irish-Protestant name with a long history (although it later spread into some Scottish families as well). At the very least, it's about 99% most likely that anyone with that last name would be of Celtic descent. Obviously, names get legally changed, passed around through marriage, things like that. But statistically speaking, a non-Caucasian with that name would be super-rare.

Stranger things have happened. I worked for a white Irish guy whose last name was Juarez. Still no idea how THAT happened.
My family name is McBride and I'm "non-Caucasian". I also have a friend with the middle name O'Neil because it's his mother's maiden name who is also "non-Caucasian". In the US it's possible, especially given its history.
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Old 07-09-2014, 10:17 PM   #28
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Oh it happens, it's just unlikely.
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Old 07-09-2014, 11:02 PM   #29
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I'd be down for African American April. I've been saying for years that Captain America could be African American and that would add so much more depth of emotionality to the character (e.g. A villian saying "The star on his chest once represented the demise of people like you" in trying to get into his head). Sorry about the tangent haha.
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Old 07-09-2014, 11:05 PM   #30
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The only skin color I'm concerned about when it comes to the TMNT is green! The skin tone of any other character changing wouldn't phase me at all, though I will admit I have a thing for redheads, so the original animated April will always be my crush.
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Old 07-09-2014, 11:14 PM   #31
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Obviously it's not set in stone or anything, but "O'Neil" is a VERY Gaelic, Irish-Protestant name with a long history (although it later spread into some Scottish families as well). At the very least, it's about 99% most likely that anyone with that last name would be of Celtic descent. Obviously, names get legally changed, passed around through marriage, things like that. But statistically speaking, a non-Caucasian with that name would be super-rare.

Stranger things have happened. I worked for a white Irish guy whose last name was Juarez. Still no idea how THAT happened.
Yeah, I've got an Irish surname and the vast majority of my ancestry is Irish... but I actually look more Italian (due to my great-grandmother on my mother's side having a fling). Go figure. I have to work so hard at staying pale; if I get the slightest bit of sun, I go olive in an instant!
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Old 07-09-2014, 11:29 PM   #32
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Everyone knows her ethnicity is "paper and ink".
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Oh it happens, it's just unlikely.
For African-Americans I don't feel that it is, actually because of the history of the US.
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Old 07-10-2014, 12:55 AM   #34
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Stranger things have happened. I worked for a white Irish guy whose last name was Juarez. Still no idea how THAT happened.
His father was either Spanish or from a Spanish-speaking country, I'm guessing? Sounds like a logical explanation to me.
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Old 07-10-2014, 07:25 AM   #37
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OT April will always be my preferred basis; so no.
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Old 07-10-2014, 08:33 AM   #38
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I wouldn't actually mind an incarnation where April is Black. her race isn't important to her character, so if they do change her race, then it's not like an entire part of her character is altered.
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Old 07-10-2014, 08:41 AM   #39
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April could very easily be of mixed race/heritage and retain the Irish last name. In fact, I really prefer that idea, and it does seem like it might have been possible from the earlier Mirage comics. But the '87 series really cementer her appearance-wise as a white redhead, so... here we are.

Weird how that show also white-washed Baxter Stockman... Though thankfully that was set right by the 2003 cartoon and the "correct" version of Baxter seems to have stuck.
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I personally like her being Irish American.
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