02-21-2017, 02:28 PM | #21 |
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Hating on TNM doesn't seem fair. It's like picking on a kid with down's syndrome, or something.
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02-23-2017, 08:36 AM | #22 |
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The reason I don't like The Next Mutation is simply that it doesn't feel enough like Turtles. It feels like a Saban produced show, a sort of "what would happen if Saban made Ninja Turtles" scenario come to life. Turtles deserved better than a Power Rangers style production.
I also thought adding a fifth female Turtle ruined the whole thing. The irony of course is if this was done today it would be embraced by the mainstream media for being progressive. |
02-23-2017, 11:02 AM | #23 |
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wow.
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02-23-2017, 11:04 AM | #24 |
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Oh brother. Getting a little defensive, aren't we?
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02-23-2017, 11:06 AM | #25 | ||
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It's kind of cute, really.
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02-23-2017, 11:19 AM | #26 |
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why did you single out plastron's criticism of the show when most of the comments are doing exactly the same thing in more detail. Also how did you get a "putting strong female characters down" vibe off of her pretty neutral comment?
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02-23-2017, 01:39 PM | #27 |
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turtlefanforever is a special kind of troll. he gets defensive whenever anyone talks bad about TNM its hilarious
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Of course, anyone who still liked it for what it was (I guess the villains like Dragon Lord, Vam Mi, and Bonesteel have some charm and I can see where someone might like Venus, I don't, but I can see why someone might). But, I think most would agree that it was just a really bad show, and not some sort of "misunderstood gem" that you're painting it as. But, if you like it, more power to ya! Last edited by Tetsu Deinonychus; 02-25-2017 at 10:46 AM. |
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02-25-2017, 02:43 PM | #29 |
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well
I had the benefit of seeing without any outside opinions influencing me. If you've read all the hate before you see it you're already screwed and arent able to enjoy it and view it as the misunderstood gem it really is.
And I don't see how it was poorly produced. Seemed on par with shows at the time. And on the plastron comment. She preaches equality and is saying a stromg female character added to the franchise is/was a bad idea. |
02-25-2017, 04:00 PM | #30 |
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I guess I need to revisit this show again someday, because I just don't get the Venus hate. I know I haven't seen this since it originally aired, but I liked her character, personally.
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02-25-2017, 04:12 PM | #31 |
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The sound effects = soooo stoop
so stoop If they made the tone a bit more serious - and half the scenes not looking like a rag tag gorilla shot. I think it could have been a good series. Out of all the voices I would say that most of the Turtles' voices were terrible. Like ugh. |
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I'd be curious to see how it's production values, or lack thereof, have aged...but I don't know that I currently have enough booze in the house at the moment for a rewatch to be possible.
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And shellboobs, and she's named after a artwork rather then an artist making her even more outside of the group. And calling Chinese Magic-Users for Shinobi. If you want a good example of a strong, well written female Turtle character, Sophie's fancomic of SotO is the place to go. |
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They're not looking for decent representations of female characters, they're trolling for attention. It's best to just pat them on the head, give them a You Tried participation ribbon, and let them be on their way.
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02-25-2017, 05:16 PM | #36 |
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just Tell trollfanforever to go to his safe space its not worth arguing with him
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02-25-2017, 08:56 PM | #37 |
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I don't. The damage it left on the franchise was WAY smaller than the one the Bay movies have done on it. Your average Joe doesn't even remember what the TNM or might not even know about it. Plus it came out at a time where the TMNT popularity was pretty much dead.
Anyway, bad writing and crappy costumes aside, introducing a female Turtle just like that wasn't something the fanbase was ever going to accept. People would faster accept the anime TMNT as canon than Venus de Milo's existence. I guess if it came out nowadays it'd be embraced by all the SJWs and such since "OMG female representation!" and wtv. |
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03-01-2017, 12:33 PM | #39 |
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TNM rox !!!
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03-01-2017, 02:57 PM | #40 |
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Yeah, Testu. I cannot bring myself to have on The Next Mutation. The general audience doesn't even remember it and let alone accepts it as canon. Most people probably don't even know it existed in the first place.
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