01-25-2023, 09:49 PM | #21 |
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Collect all 44 cover variants!
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I don't really have anything against alternate covers, whether it's 2 of them or 44 of them. If people weren't buying them then the market would make them not a thing naturally. And if you feel or have some compulsion like "I have to collect them all! Damn it!" then that's really your issue.
Back when I was getting IDW off the rack I was perfectly content with the Kevin Eastman alternate covers and nothing else. With Urban Legends it was a bit of a quandary. Eastman has nothing to do with Image TMNT beyond graciously helping Urban Legends happen at all... but... it's Kevin Eastman. Doing Image TMNT covers. Gotta have. But I still had to have the new Frank covers, too. For storage on the rare instances I get 2 covers, I'd jam them in the same bag and board.
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01-26-2023, 12:23 AM | #24 |
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The variants aren’t the problem imo. They just became a big thing at the same time American mainstream comics starting going downhill again super hard.
The writing quality has been largely trash for the last decade+, if you ask me. There is always some good stuff being produced but overall the medium is stale and full of gimmick storytelling like cheap deaths, constant resets, and extreme social pandering. That said, 44 variants is a lot. But hey, they are optional and I enjoy getting to see so many different artist interpretations, so I’m cool with it. |
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I just find nearly 50 different covers excessive. Thus the tongue in cheek post. I guess I just don't understand the ins and outs of the comic book market.
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01-26-2023, 10:09 AM | #28 |
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One of the things that surprised me while reading this issue was that one of the new turtles actually made a fat joke.
That’s a pretty bold thing to do in 2023.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the rest of the series is a slow unpacking of why that was the wrong thing to do.
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01-26-2023, 01:23 PM | #30 |
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Variant covers are not the problem, they are the symptom of a bigger illness. You won't solve the issue by making them disappear. Nonetheless I don't like them, it's a weird concept, they unnecessarily floods the market.
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01-26-2023, 03:42 PM | #31 |
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I have come to hate variant covers. The bane of the hobby, designed to extract more dollars from a diminishing audience, simulating a larger readership on paper than actually exists in the real world.
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01-27-2023, 04:48 PM | #32 |
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Like The Last Ronin itself it wasn't ground breaking but it's good to have some TMNT content which is more mature in it's tone and the things it can reference.
Unlikely but since the 'Ronin-verse' is distinctly different to Mirage and any of the previous iterations I'd be up for prequels to delve deeper into the history of this version of the turtles. I was intrigued by the flashback to what looked a final confrontation with the Shredder. It was like a what if the '03 RTNY final battle was done with more Mirage characterisation. In the brief scene we saw Splinter goes from stern leader determined to get revenge for the death of Yoshi (something we haven't seen since Mirage #1) to genuinely caring parent. That will always be an interesting dichotomy that Splinter is both genuinely loving parent and a person who groomed his sons to be his personal assassins that was never really explored in the original comics...and was never applicable to other versions. |
01-29-2023, 08:55 PM | #33 |
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Once again topping sales charts. Over on Amazon earlier today I noticed it was the #1 seller under “comics and graphic novels”, above Batman #132.
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If people want to spend the money for 44 different covers? Let capitalism reign. The comic itself? Pretty good! I will have faith that they wont fall into the 'girls are amazing, men are idiots" trope because this is Tom Waltz, within reason since Odyn may be playing up the giant brute trope which is cool (no one character should be everything). I am really looking forward to see how they develop during the rest of the run! Edit upon some reflection: IT would be awesome if Bludgeon or someone similar showed up to help train Odyn. |
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02-01-2023, 04:20 PM | #35 |
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Just finished reading this, I didn't think The Last Ronin needed a prequel series and it felt like this was just going to be a cash-grab, but glad to see I was wrong! This issue was very good and was able to stand on its own even if The Last Ronin series never existed. It was well paced, great art, nice story, and it really did feel like a Mirage-esque story for Michelangelo.
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1 the guy whose career is vested in these sales 2 the fan weirdo who needs a life "win" against a bigger dog I love what you said about the "comic whales" because in theory those are the only people truly keeping this ideologically-overran industry afloat. And instead of recognizing that and operating accordingly, these guys are doubling down on their BS. It's like the restaurant industry who routinely doubles down on their bs and makes the same mistakes. Their restaurant starts suffering financially and the only head-math they can do is raise prices and lower portion sizes. And then the restaurant is gone. That's these publishers. Pump out more variants, increase TMNT output, "oh look we had a hit with the Last Ronin" which is a solid concept - let's stop innovating and pump out more of that and add some social justice in there while we are at it because maybe the blue hairs will buy more books. These people are full of $#!(. Quote:
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Don’t go looking up how many variants the first issue of the original Last Ronin had…!
(spoiler alert, it was 80…)
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Hello
Do you happen to know if the issue "Lost Day" will be included in the "Last Years" hardcover volume? Thank you |
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The solicitations don't specify whether it's included however the page count for the hardback (208 ) and the page count for issue 1 (30) would seem to indicate that it might be included - 30x5 issues only makes 150 and Lost Day is listed as 52 pages (although minus a few for ads, etc. so more likely 46 or 48 ).
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