Joker Review Thread

~~AquaParade~~ · 08-31-2019, 12:45 PM

- Hope this is okay, mods.

Reviews for "Joker", which was screened at the Venice Film festival are now hitting the web! I'll get us started, but feel free to share more!

The film is a hit!

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/reviews/joker/

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Bold, devastating and utterly beautiful, Todd Phillips and Joaquin Phoenix have not just reimagined one of the most iconic villains in cinema history, but reimagined the comic book movie itself.

https://www.standard.co.uk/go/london...-a4225396.html

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/re...review-1235309

https://variety.com/2019/film/review...ps-1203317033/

http://collider.com/joker-review-vid...witter/#images

And here is a rather negative review:

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/j...ie-review-2019

*Autbot_Benz* · 08-31-2019, 12:56 PM

So pumped for this and glad its being well received

*TigerClaw* · 08-31-2019, 01:06 PM

IGN gave it a 10.

~~AquaParade~~ · 08-31-2019, 01:24 PM

To think we have people calling the film a waste of time because it is not in the DCEU, or comparing Joaquins version of the character to SilentPool/BarakaPool.

This looks to be a game changer....

But be careful, I may have just read a mindblowing spoiler from a review linked to rotten tomatoes. I'll try and provide a link, but I'm a bit scared to go back and check if it's really a spoiler, tbh.

*CyberCubed* · 08-31-2019, 01:43 PM

~~AquaParade~~ · 08-31-2019, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/me...Ji9y/giphy.gif

Yup. This film is going to make a lot of money.

*CyberCubed* · 08-31-2019, 01:52 PM

We got 3 great live-action Jokers in our lifetimes.

Jack Nicholson as Joker '89, Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight in 2008, and now Joaquin Phoenix in 2019.

We don't talk about Jared Leto.

*Leo656* · 08-31-2019, 01:52 PM

Interesting. I've only seen negative reviews thus far, albeit only a couple.

And as Andrew predicted, it is indeed an "Important Political Movie", right down to Joker's antics inspiring the common rabble to don clown masks and carry "Kill The Rich!" signs.

Looks like it's going to be tough to discuss this one while staying within the rules.

~~AquaParade~~ · 08-31-2019, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Interesting. I've only seen negative reviews thus far, albeit only a couple.

And as Andrew predicted, it is indeed an "Important Political Movie", right down to Joker's antics inspiring the common rabble to don clown masks and carry "Kill The Rich!" signs.

Looks like it's going to be tough to discuss this one while staying within the rules.

I think we should be fine if we try our best to step lightly around it. If we show the mods we can be civil and tempered, they may allow the necessary wiggle.room.

There are elements worth discussing without leaning heavily into politics anyway. I just read a ton of reviews that did it quite gracefully, if at all.

~~Sumac~~ · 08-31-2019, 03:10 PM

I've read couple of reviews and they are quite ridiculous.
Like Andrew said some people see it is as an "Important Political Movie", with mentions of "Incels" (what little group of freaks have done to become such important fixture for left?) and "morally bankrupt America" and *wink-wink "vigilante action" wink-wink*.

I am quite sad, that instead seeing this movie for, you know, the movie, those so called "reviewers" are desperately trying to connect it to modern politics.

*Zulithe* · 08-31-2019, 03:16 PM

After many, many months of people doubting this film... from ******** on the leaked screenplay (which we don't know for sure resembles the final film), to attacking Joker fans and memers... looks like everything is gonna turn out a-okay!

*Andrew NDB* · 08-31-2019, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Interesting. I've only seen negative reviews thus far, albeit only a couple.

And as Andrew predicted, it is indeed an "Important Political Movie", right down to Joker's antics inspiring the common rabble to don clown masks and carry "Kill The Rich!" signs.

It's puzzling to me because Nolan just did that in "The Dark Knight Rises." Rich people getting yanked out of their beds and all.

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Originally Posted by Sumac

I've read couple of reviews and they are quite ridiculous.
Like Andrew said some people see it is as an "Important Political Movie", with mentions of "Incels" (what little group of freaks have done to become such important fixture for left?) and "morally bankrupt America" and *wink-wink "vigilante action" wink-wink*.

I am quite sad, that instead seeing this movie for, you know, the movie, those so called "reviewers" are desperately trying to connect it to modern politics.

I just don't understand why people see that as a positive thing. I mean, maybe I do, but I don't get it.

*Prowler* · 08-31-2019, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sumac

I've read couple of reviews and they are quite ridiculous.
Like Andrew said some people see it is as an "Important Political Movie", with mentions of "Incels" (what little group of freaks have done to become such important fixture for left?) and "morally bankrupt America" and *wink-wink "vigilante action" wink-wink*.

I am quite sad, that instead seeing this movie for, you know, the movie, those so called "reviewers" are desperately trying to connect it to modern politics.

What the hell do Batman and Joker even have to do with incels lmao.

Are these people crazy?

~~AquaParade~~ · 08-31-2019, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler

What the hell do Batman and Joker even have to do with incels lmao.

Are these people crazy?

Well it stems from something to do with the leaked script, which I haven't read. But according to the creators, they veered heavily from the script and rewrote most of it.

So it wouldn't be surprising if it's just a case of people jumping to conclusions. Wouldn't be unusual in our time.

*Prowler* · 08-31-2019, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

Well it stems from something to do with the leaked script, which I haven't read. But according to the creators, they veered heavily from the script and rewrote most of it.

So it wouldn't be surprising if it's just a case of people jumping to conclusions. Wouldn't be unusual in our time.

...I don't know much about Batman or Joker, but I don't see how incels could fit in such world. Unless they decide to turn Joker into an incel or something. Is that what this is about? If so, then wow

But yeah, hopefully just people jumping to conclusions.

*TigerClaw* · 08-31-2019, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

We got 3 great live-action Jokers in our lifetimes.

Jack Nicholson as Joker '89, Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight in 2008, and now Joaquin Phoenix in 2019.

We don't talk about Jared Leto.

You mean 4. Because of Cesar Romero. The original Joker.

*CyberCubed* · 08-31-2019, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler

...I don't know much about Batman or Joker, but I don't see how incels could fit in such world. Unless they decide to turn Joker into an incel or something. Is that what this is about? If so, then wow

But yeah, hopefully just people jumping to conclusions.

It's because Joker is a psychopathic mass murderer and this movie will apparently make people sympathize with him and find his cause just. And since there's no Batman in the film to counter him, Joker is a protagonist in his own movie.

Joker is the most popular Batman villain but its because Batman is able to stop him at (almost) every turn. Nobody wants to watch a story about a mass murderer who kills people without any real reason and laughs about it. That's where the problem lies of people "We live in a society" type stuff.

*MikeandRaph87* · 08-31-2019, 07:21 PM

Is there a reason given for this taking place in 1981? I assumed 2019,but what significance is that year to what they want to do with the 1940 created character?

*CyberCubed* · 08-31-2019, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Is there a reason given for this taking place in 1981? I assumed 2019,but what significance is that year to what they want to do with the 1940 created character?

The King of Comedy came out in 1981 and Robert De Niro is in the movie.

*Zulithe* · 08-31-2019, 07:36 PM

Everyone should see Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy before walking in to this. Clearly a ton of influence being taken. I actually hadn't seen The King of Comedy until this year, glad I did.

08-31-2019, 12:56 PM	#2
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 8,267	So pumped for this and glad its being well received __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

08-31-2019, 01:06 PM	#3
TigerClaw Mutant Tiger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hialeah, Florida, USA Posts: 13,815	IGN gave it a 10. __________________

08-31-2019, 01:52 PM	#8
Leo656 The Franchise Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,696	Interesting. I've only seen negative reviews thus far, albeit only a couple. And as Andrew predicted, it is indeed an "Important Political Movie", right down to Joker's antics inspiring the common rabble to don clown masks and carry "Kill The Rich!" signs. Looks like it's going to be tough to discuss this one while staying within the rules. __________________ "I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know." nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/

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MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,127	Is there a reason given for this taking place in 1981? I assumed 2019,but what significance is that year to what they want to do with the 1940 created character? __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

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08-31-2019, 01:24 PM	#4
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	To think we have people calling the film a waste of time because it is not in the DCEU, or comparing Joaquins version of the character to SilentPool/BarakaPool. This looks to be a game changer.... But be careful, I may have just read a mindblowing spoiler from a review linked to rotten tomatoes. I'll try and provide a link, but I'm a bit scared to go back and check if it's really a spoiler, tbh.

08-31-2019, 01:43 PM	#5
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,001

08-31-2019, 03:10 PM	#10
~~Sumac~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 6,129	I've read couple of reviews and they are quite ridiculous. Like Andrew said some people see it is as an "Important Political Movie", with mentions of "Incels" (what little group of freaks have done to become such important fixture for left?) and "morally bankrupt America" and wink-wink "vigilante action" wink-wink. I am quite sad, that instead seeing this movie for, you know, the movie, those so called "reviewers" are desperately trying to connect it to modern politics.

08-31-2019, 03:16 PM	#11
Zulithe Ninjutsu Master Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NorCal Posts: 5,999	After many, many months of people doubting this film... from ******** on the leaked screenplay (which we don't know for sure resembles the final film), to attacking Joker fans and memers... looks like everything is gonna turn out a-okay!

08-31-2019, 07:36 PM	#20
Zulithe Ninjutsu Master Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NorCal Posts: 5,999	Everyone should see Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy before walking in to this. Clearly a ton of influence being taken. I actually hadn't seen The King of Comedy until this year, glad I did.