Rosesanne Making A Comeback

[Powder]

Seriously.

[Refractive Reflections]

Originally Posted by PApagreg

Too bad she could't stop saying dumb things on twitter or maybe she wouldve kept her show

More like selective liberal outrage when you have a society in which Bill Maher can say "house n****r" on his show without lasting consequence.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections

More like selective liberal outrage when you have a society in which Bill Maher can say "house n****r" on his show without lasting consequence.

I don't mind Bill Maher all that much but... dang, I had no idea he said that. That actually is apples to apples.

[Refractive Reflections]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I don't mind Bill Maher all that much but... dang, I had no idea he said that. That actually is apples to apples.

Did you also hear the part at 1:20 on the video that HBO actually rebroadcasted the episode before pulling it off the air? One would think that the individuals responsible for it on HBO would have stopped rebroadcasting before the public outrage, but apparently superiors on the production crew who were responsible, had no moral qualms about rebroadcasting that episode to the public. In the Roseanne incident it was about one individual on her individually-controlled Twitter account, with that Bill Maher episode, it was not only Bill Maher, but also the backing of production and broadcasting oversight superiors who felt it suitable and appropriate for the public.

It's interesting when you have ABC/Disney taking such a strong stand against racism in feeling that Roseanne's words are worth firing her and cancelling her show, but yet has no problem working with sex offenders and pedophiles:

Some Question ABC’s And Disney’s Willingness To Work With Registered Sex Offenders And Pedophiles After Immediately Canceling ‘Roseanne’

While many people agree that Roseanne Barr’s comments were racist, they are questioning why her show was immediately canceled when the network has a history of working with registered sex offenders and pedophiles who were convicted of crimes against children.

An Open Secret, who is known for their explosive documentary by the same name that highlighted the prevalence of sex offenders and pedophiles who aren’t just working in the industry, but continue working with children, shared a tweet that is going viral asking the question. In the tweet, they pointed to Brian Peck who was convicted in 2004 of two counts of the original multiple counts that all centered around the sexual abuse of an underage, Nickelodeon star. Peck was ultimately convicted on one count of a lewd act against a child and one count of oral copulation of a person under 16 after he admitted to the crimes.

Before Peck’s 2004 conviction, he worked on many children’s shows including multiple series that starred Amanda Bynes such as The Amanda Show, What I Like About You, and All That. Peck also worked on the children’s’ series Boy Meets World, Clueless, Kenan and Kel, The Tick, and Growing Pains. You may see a full list of Brian Peck’s television and film credits on his official IMDB page.

After Brian Peck’s arrest and conviction, Disney (which is owned by ABC) hired him to work on the children’s series Yay, Me! Starring London Tipton and The Suite Life of Zack & Cody.

Brian Peck is a good friend of actor Charlie Sheen and in 2013 worked on the series Anger Management as a dialogue coach for 22 episodes.

Brian Peck isn’t the only registered sex-offender who has been convicted of child sex abuse crimes hired by ABC/Disney following their conviction.


In 1988, the child actor from the movie Clownhouse Nathan Forrest Winters told his mother at the end of filming that the director Victor Salva had been molesting him for approximately five years. Salva was found guilty on five of the 11 original counts after he confessed to the sexual abuse and video recordings of him abusing Nathan Winters were found in his home. Police also found videotapes and magazines featuring child pornography as well.

Though Clownhouse was a low budget movie backed by Francis Ford Coppola, Salva went on to enjoy a thriving, lucrative career that was continually backed and supported by Coppola.

Victor Salva is behind the three Jeepers Creepers films.

You can find a full filmography for Victor Salva on his IMDB page, including the Disney backed movie Powder that Salva directed and wrote in 1995. The movie was produced and distributed through the then Disney owned production and distribution company Caravan Pictures.

Victor Salva’s victim Nathan Forrest Winters protested the release of the film but to no avail. Powder had an estimated budget of $9.5 million and grossed $31 million in the United States alone.

Many are now questioning why ABC and Disney would take such a firm stance with Roseanne Barr for sharing a racist tweet, yet allow registered sex-offenders and those convicted of pedophilia to continue working for them.

What do you think? Did ABC make the right call in pulling the plug on Roseanne? Do you think Disney, ABC and other networks and production companies should take as strong a stance against child sexual abuse as they do toward racism?

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[ssjup81]

Roseanne is a network show aimed at families and that network to my knowledge is owned by Disney. HBO is a cable station most don't have unless you pay extra, right? I think it's moreso network bias than liberal bias since I doubt he would've gotten away with something like that if his show aired on ABC, CBS, or NBC.

[plastroncafe]

Oh no.
Please.
Not Maher.
My SJC heart couldn't bear the loss of him.

Or something.
But yes, Network television is beholden to the whims and Whimsy of advertisers. Where is HBO is beholden to its subscribers. Two different animals entirely.

[Refractive Reflections]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Oh no.
Please.
Not Maher.
My SJC heart couldn't bear the loss of him.

Or something.
But yes, Network television is beholden to the whims and Whimsy of advertisers. Where is HBO is beholden to its subscribers. Two different animals entirely.

Not necessarily, if that was the case, then there shouldn't be any advertisements on cable programming.

Originally Posted by ssjup81

Roseanne is a network show aimed at families and that network to my knowledge is owned by Disney. HBO is a cable station most don't have unless you pay extra, right? I think it's moreso network bias than liberal bias since I doubt he would've gotten away with something like that if his show aired on ABC, CBS, or NBC.

Nevertheless, the societal outrage is quite hypocritical in terms of cultural race sensitivity.

[plastroncafe]

Cable channels are tiered, with HBO being considered Premium.
It doesn't have commercials that aren't for their own products. Or at very least it never did when I was a subscriber.

Which is different than something like Starz, Nickelodeon, or CNN.

[sdp]

I like Maher, I seem to agree with him more than the average alt-left/right person, that's not to say he doesn't have views I disagree with. There's a reason he's disliked by both conservatives and liberals. I don't think its a fair comparison with Roseanne but whatever.

A shame the show is being cancelled, I understand why they would do it. Anyone outraged over the show ending or for what Roseanne said are both idiots. A company has got to do what it has go to do and Roseanne was just being Roseanne.

Big fan of the show, I spent many late nights watching marathons of the show. I heard the reivival was fun, will check the whole series out one day. I hope the rumors about continuing without Roseanne are false, I mean she might not have been the best part of the show but at the end of the day it was her show and it'd feel weird without her.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Cable channels are tiered, with HBO being considered Premium.
It doesn't have commercials that aren't for their own products. Or at very least it never did when I was a subscriber.

Which is different than something like Starz, Nickelodeon, or CNN.

I don't know... I think even if "Roseanne" was on Showtime, her tweet would still have had the exact same result.

[TurtleTitan97]

The show is getting a spinoff: https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment...ry?id=56075443

[Powder]

Won't be watching that.

[sdp]

Roseanne without Roseanne? I guess you can't blame them, it was a profitable show so they need it back but at the same time they couldn't keep Roseanne after that tweet and likely future tweets like it.

I'll definitely watch it one day but I'm sure it won't be any good no matter how people say that Roseanne was the least interesting character and not that important, she was still pretty damn important, I mean what are they going to do? Kill her of a heart attack a la John Goodman in the last season?

I watched so many Roseanne marathons in the early 2000's from like 11 pm until like 3 am so the show will always have fond memories.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by sdp

Roseanne without Roseanne? I guess you can't blame them, it was a profitable show so they need it back but at the same time they couldn't keep Roseanne after that tweet and likely future tweets like it.

I'll definitely watch it one day but I'm sure it won't be any good no matter how people say that Roseanne was the least interesting character and not that important, she was still pretty damn important, I mean what are they going to do? Kill her of a heart attack a la John Goodman in the last season?

I watched so many Roseanne marathons in the early 2000's from like 11 pm until like 3 am so the show will always have fond memories.

If I'm not mistaken, the character was supposed to get surgery or something. They'll probably kill her off while in the operating room.