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Old 07-09-2016, 12:25 PM   #1
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New Kevin Eastman interview, mentions the PD films

http://www.thenational.ae/blogs/scen...-kevin-eastman

Apparently the Platinum Dunes movies possess "the darker edge of the comic books."

Oh, Kevin.
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Old 07-09-2016, 01:32 PM   #2
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Apparently the Platinum Dunes movies possess "the darker edge of the comic books."

Oh, Kevin.
I knew without reading he'd have nothing but good things to say.

I really can't take the man seriously. If it's TMNT, he approves. That's it. I appreciate his work and his enthusiasm, but he has pretty much zero credibility with me.

"Lost Angeles", huh? What happened to his "Fistful of Blood?" Did that already tank? I read the first two issues and it's staple Eastman run-and-gun with some blood-and-boobs thrown in for fun.
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I knew without reading he'd have nothing but good things to say.

I really can't take the man seriously. If it's TMNT, he approves. That's it. I appreciate his work and his enthusiasm, but he has pretty much zero credibility with me.

"Lost Angeles", huh? What happened to his "Fistful of Blood?" Did that already tank? I read the first two issues and it's staple Eastman run-and-gun with some blood-and-boobs thrown in for fun.
I mean this is the same Eastman who thought Next Mutation was a good idea
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I mean this is the same Eastman who thought Next Mutation was a good idea
I've found that Bodycount best sums up his approach:

Run and gun, blood and boobs. Loud noise, no intelligence.
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I mean this is the same Eastman who thought Next Mutation was a good idea
Or more interestingly promised it would feature "older, angrier, grittier Turtles."
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Old 07-09-2016, 03:04 PM   #6
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Almost as bad as Kevin comparing the 2014 film's fight scenes to The Raid.
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Old 07-09-2016, 03:06 PM   #7
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Apparently the Platinum Dunes movies possess "the darker edge of the comic books."

Oh, Kevin.
Well, if we're being honest here, "the darker edge of the comic books." was rather superficial in retrospect.
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Old 07-09-2016, 03:28 PM   #8
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"the darker edge of the comic books."
I can't really speak to being too familiar with the comics at this point in time, but even then the darkness of those films is pretty limited...

Darkest part of the second is probably just the mood and conflict between the Turtles themselves.
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There's a difference between darkness and conflict.

Platinum Dunes has ZERO darkness. Darkness is Splinter forced to consume rats to survive, or the Turtles wondering what their role in City at War is and if all of the deaths and violence aren't their own fault...

Comic book films like The Dark Knight or Captain America Civil War have "darkness" in them.

Hell, some Pixar films have more darkness in them than anything PD has ever done.
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Old 07-09-2016, 03:33 PM   #10
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There's a difference between darkness and conflict.

Platinum Dunes has ZERO darkness. Darkness is Splinter forced to consume rats to survive, or the Turtles wondering what their role in City at War is and if all of the deaths and violence aren't their own fault...

Comic book films like The Dark Knight or Captain America Civil War have "darkness" in them.

Hell, some Pixar films have more darkness in them than anything PD has ever done.
The Nick Toon is more darker than the PD movies.
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The Nick Toon is more darker than the PD movies.
More darker
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Pretty much my point, that that was the closest thing to it, which isn't really anything.

And true about Nick. Those little guys witnessed Splinter murdered even.


If PD wants to ever venture into a third and add some darkness, then, I dunno... do something big, like kill of Fox's April. And Vern maybe. That would be okay. Distraught Casey then can have a break down and snap, becoming a Casey we recognize.

Prob why those films won't go dark though. They'd end up having to be rated R and lose all that kid money.

Yup, HBO or something needs a TMNT project.
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Old 07-09-2016, 03:46 PM   #13
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I do disagree with him on the Platinum Dunes films, yet his opinion holds weight with me because he co-created these characters. If he wants to turn the turtles into four mimes fighting an evil clown shredder I won't argue with him, because he co-made these characters. In my book, he can do whatever he wants with them.

Doesn't mean others have to like it, though.
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I do disagree with him on the Platinum Dunes films, yet his opinion holds weight with me because he co-created these characters. If he wants to turn the turtles into four mimes fighting an evil clown shredder I won't argue with him, because he co-made these characters. In my book, he can do whatever he wants with them.
But that would still be a terrible idea. Co-creator or not, you shouldn't just change your characters to become vastly different than before. Otherwise it would just turn off fans.
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But that would still be a terrible idea. Co-creator or not, you shouldn't just change your characters to become vastly different than before. Otherwise it would just turn off fans.
I said it was his right, not that it wasn't a terrible idea. He can do what he likes, doesn't mean anyone else has to like or support it. Without fan support, and idea usually (though not all the time) fails.
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Over a decade ago, I saw a TMNT cartoon (aka the 2003 one) which featured Donatello in a future where Mikey had one of his arm's gone, Leo was pretty much blind, Raph had lost an eye, and everyone died at the end except Donatello and an older April. And Donny killed Shredder.

That's 10x darker than anything in these movies. And that was a Saturday Morning Cartoon.

This crap, on the other hand? Has farting rhinos/pigs, a GQ Casey Jones, boners, and a nunchucking vehicle that also shoots sewer lids.

What edge is he talking about? The edge of the cliff that fans wanted to jump off of after watching these stupid things?

The only thing dark about these movies is the BS these people are shoveling into faces.

With all due respect to Mr. Kevin Eastman...but please remind us again about those 'Fight Scenes reminiscent of The Raid & Fist of Legend' that you said would be in these films.
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Over a decade ago, I saw a TMNT cartoon (aka the 2003 one) which featured Donatello in a future where Mikey had one of his arm's gone, Leo was pretty much blind, Raph had lost an eye, and everyone died at the end except Donatello and an older April. And Donny killed Shredder.

That's 10x darker than anything in these movies. And that was a Saturday Morning Cartoon.

This crap, on the other hand? Has farting rhinos/pigs, a GQ Casey Jones, boners, and a nunchucking vehicle that also shoots sewer lids.

What edge is he talking about? The edge of the cliff that fans wanted to jump off of after watching these stupid things?

The only thing dark about these movies is the BS these people are shoveling into faces.

With all due respect to Mr. Kevin Eastman...but please remind us again about those 'Fight Scenes reminiscent of The Raid & Fist of Legend' that you said would be in these films.
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What edge is he talking about? The edge of the cliff that fans wanted to jump off of after watching these stupid things?
Or even contemplating watching these things.
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Old 08-30-2016, 07:07 PM   #19
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It's quotes like this that makes me think that just like everyone involved took very much the wrong lessons from TMNT 2014 as in: well people didn't like that the turtles were super strong brawlers so in the sequel we'll barely show them fighting at all that even if we do get a reboot I still fear it wont fix any of the problems with the Platinum Dunes.

I can see some Paramount execs sitting round a table and saying "so there's some scenes at night? Clearly this was too dark and edgy. We need to make it lighter still. Problem solved."
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Prob why those films won't go dark though. They'd end up having to be rated R and lose all that kid money.
Both the 4Kids and Nick cartoons can be dark and have a TV-Y7 rating. There is really is no reason why a PG-13 Turtles film couldn't be dark.
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