11-19-2021, 05:12 PM | #61 |
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If people like Treyvon Martin and George Floyd should have simply used "common sense" and not been were they were when they were killed then surely that same logic should apply to Kyle Rittenhouse. What the actual **** was a 17 year old thinking travelling across state lines armed with an AR-15 going to a riot?
I feel I should point out there is less evidence of Treyvon Martin going out with the intention stealing cars than there is of Kyle Rittenhouse being a white supremacist the guy was literally pictured celebrating with a bunch of known white supremacists. That casts his motivation for being at riots caused by the police shooting an unarmed black man in a much darker light. Let's call a spade a spade here; he wasn't there to be a medic nor to play peacemaker. At best he was there to score points with his alt right buddies being seen standing up BLM and Antifa at worst he was looking to shoot some black people and any white people who were their allies. However if you want defend his legal right to be there regardless of how extremely dumb and morally questionable it was that is fine ...but you should also extend that same argument to black people like Treyvon Martin and George Floyd. What is a bigger lapse in judgement anyway going to play vigilante at a riot or going out at night or going to a grocery store during the day? |
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Floyd was big and massive and probably on some kind of drug and that's why they might have felt the need to restrain him. could it have been done another way? yeah... but if it was a white guy, I garuntee you it wouldn't have even made the news. no one would be lamenting a dead white crook. the fact that people are holding up these 'victims' as innocent shows you how desperate they are to paint this kid as a problem. that should tell you alot right there.
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Fvck floyd. Drug addict died of his overdose... typical drug addict swallowed the pills he had to try & hide evidence. Sure what the cops did did not help but frankly, his drug addicted a$$ would have overdosed regardless where he was sitting or laying or at once the police had him in custody. Rittenhouse rid the world of 2 human scumbags. |
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Now, Rittenhouse was LAWFULLY carrying a firearm he got only once he got to town. The firearm did NOT come with him from his home. Pay attention. Kyle never hung out with any white supremacists, just some white dudes that the liberal media has labeled as such run by a guy is who is not even a white dude. Trayvon brought fists to a gun fight. Floyd overdosed. Kyle defended himself against 4 violent felons trying to kill him. |
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However, "Why was he even there?" wasn't the point of the trial. The point was, "Under state law, did he have the right to shoot to defend himself against people who came after him?" State law says "Yes he did." But I agree, if he stayed home then nothing happens. I don't think he really should have been there, but that wasn't what the trial was about. If you've ever been questioned by the cops after any sort of violent encounter - and BOY have I - when you start going too far backwards in the series of events that led to whatever it was that happened, they will always cut you off and be like, "I don't give a f*ck about yesterday or an hour ago, just tell me what the f*ck happened Right Now." So the WHY of Rittenhouse being there was not entirely relevant no matter how much people insist that it is. Was he licensed to carry? Apparently yes. Was he within his rights to shoot at people attacking him? Apparently yes, according to state law. "Why was he even there?" Legally, not really relevant. But again, I DO think him even being there was stupid. But it's not enough to establish intent to murder. Murder is VERY hard to prove, on purpose. Especially in incidents such as this. The officer who was on trial for killing Floyd was technically innocent of "murder" because "murder" by its very legal definition implies INTENT. And I highly doubt the officer MEANT to kill George Floyd. And I'm pretty sure the Fentanyl had a wee bit to do with him dying as well. Call it a gut feeling if you must. And Martin should have kept walking home, not started a physical fight with the person following him. Even if he was innocent of anything he was suspected of, up to that point, at THAT moment he became an assailant, a criminal, and Zimmerman acted as anyone in that situation would if they were armed as he had been. Someone starts smashing my head against the concrete, f*ck it, I don't care WHAT they were doing a minute ago, sh*t's ON now and if they don't make it, Oh Well. Don't bash my f*cking head against the concrete, then. These are not apples-to-apples comparisons. BUT, in every case, someone done goofed and in turn someone got killed. Still, it's not as simple a case of "Whataboutism" as some would have one believe.
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Now that I've humoured that argument for a moment let's be real; a guy who has at least some sympathies with white supremacists isn't going to a riot caused by the repeated shooting of an unarmed black man to help anyone. At very least that should cast some doubt on his motivations. Quote:
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I agree that if Floyd was white it probably wouldn't have made the national and international news but that's because George Floyd was the latest in a long line of unarmed black people that were killed by the police. Comparatively much fewer white people are killed by police even the likes of Dylan Roof. When white people are needlessly killed by police it's also FAR more common for the officers involved to be held accountable. |
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In particular it shows paranoia, love for inane conspiracies and some weird hatred. Normal people won't jump to conclusion, that the guy was there to commit mass murder of some random people. |
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11-19-2021, 06:42 PM | #71 |
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Honestly George Floyd was a nobody, all this **** mostly happened cause it was during pandemic lockdown and people saw it as a 'get out of jail free lockdown' excuse to go out, gather in groups and destroy **** when they were still supposed to be home due to the pandemic.
I bet you most of the so-called protesters didn't give a flying ****, they just saw it as a free pass to go outside and take out their lockdown aggression on property. And if the cops happened to arrest or shoot 'the wrong one' they can keep their cause going. I don't care what Kyle was doing there, he clearly woulda been shooting people up if that his intention from the start, the video even shows him just walking around all chill until he got attacked. Also stop using the 'another state' ******** narrative. Dude was literal minutes away. Y'all acting like he drove 10 hours to get there.
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Right! This one cracks me up whenever I hear someone bring it up. Hey morons this is The U.S.A. and we can freely cross state lines no questions asked! Merely visiting another state by itself isn’t evidence of intent.
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11-19-2021, 08:01 PM | #73 |
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It's not just that, it's that from where he stands, 'the next state' is literally a hop, skip and a jump away. It's like going to the grocery store. They're just desperately reaching for anything to make it sound as incriminating as possible.
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I dont know much about most of the cases with MArtin and Floyd but I am well up on Rittenhouse...so lets correct some misconseptions.
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Totally. I keep wondering if people know what they are talking about when they say that, because it’s completely meaningless in the big picture. Try convincing me you really care whether he crossed state lines, regardless of the fact that his dad lived there and it was ten minutes away.
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I will say - and I promise not to make a habit of this - I have to give credit to Biden for his statement about "the system works" and "we have to abide by the judge's decision". That took guts, all things considered.
I guess everybody does get One.
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11-20-2021, 04:55 AM | #78 |
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Cue the Antifa riot. I guess that was a 'peacful protest' too, huh?
too me, looks like the capitol riots. violence is more their MO.
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The most I see is the usual leftist ****. Twitter going nuts, anyone who disagrees is getting blocked, friendships are being broken on FB over whoever says Kyle did nothing wrong. All that nonsense.
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