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Old 06-18-2019, 11:11 AM   #141
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Kate starting out as a cocky asshole isn't any worse then Oliver starting as a homicidal maniac
I don't think I'd append the word "maniac" to that. I can't think of anyone he killed that didn't deserve it, off the top of my head.

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Wasn't there a whole plot line about Batman training dick so he WOULDN'T turn out like him?
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After Batman died in Final Crisis or whichever crisis it was, Dick took over the mantle.
There was two storylines and that was the second. The first was a decade+ beforehand, "Prodigal," where after the smoke cleared from Knightfall, KnightQuest, and KnightsEnd, Bruce gave the mantle to Dick while he worked on himself elsewhere for about a year.

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Old 06-18-2019, 11:21 AM   #142
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There were two storylines and that was the second. The first was a decade+ beforehand, "Prodigal," where after the smoke cleared from Knightfall, KnightQuest, and KnightsEnd, Bruce gave the mantle Dick while he worked on himself elsewhere for about a year.
Oh that's right, I forgot about Prodigal. I still need to collect that.
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Old 06-19-2019, 02:51 AM   #143
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I don't really have a issue with Batwoman wanting the credit when Earth-1 Batman's been gone for what, three years?
I don't mind an edgy, cocky female hero. I do mind if they're a carbon copy of a male character and that edginess acts as a way to advertise the franchise's wokeness. It's too forced. It wants to make a political message, but it doesn't understand the politics their commenting on.

This isn't creative. It's not putting a new and fresh spin on a character. It's basically asking "What if Batman was a lesbian, but everything else was exactly the same." And that's just riding the popularity of an already established character.

They do this with a bunch of characters, and I find it kind of offensive that companies don't push original characters who happen to be in a minority group. Wolverine and Thor are women. Batman's a lesbian.

I'm sure that this is doing some good on a social level. It's making a historically oppressed groups mainstream. It's showing that they're just as capable as the straight white males who've dominated pop-culture since forever.

And it's not like it doesn't work. I love Miles Morales. He's a very compelling character. More often than not, though, most of these forays into diversity just feel forced, and done more for the controversy than for the actual appreciation of the cultures the characters represent.

Personally, I'd rather see original characters represent these groups. I know a lot of them fall flat, but that's par for the course with any character. How many Golden Age heroes still exist today? Getting something with staying power isn't easy. But every so often we get a real gem out of these things.

Black Panther, Modern Family, Mr. Sulu, Power Man, Storm, Cyborg, and just because I'm convinced they are: Sam and Frodo from Lord of the Rings. That sexual tension was PALPABLE.
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Old 06-24-2019, 05:05 PM   #144
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I just hope someone has the balls to ask why the Batwoman Trailers come off as super Anti-Male and cringy as hell. Also that song where the person screams I AM A WOMAN in the trailers needs to be addressed
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Old 06-24-2019, 05:14 PM   #145
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They probably won't even open it up to the audience. That, or they'll pre-screen questions before they let people go up to the mic.
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