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Old 08-01-2017, 12:18 PM   #81
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Can't remember if I asked yet (in the other thread?) or only thought it... but what's up with the purple straps on Donnie's shoulders? Shell and plastron not real or otherwise removable...?
My guess is that the straps are suppose to attach to the belt somehow. I would like to see some color fixes on this design.
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Old 08-01-2017, 12:23 PM   #82
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Why would an artist choose to use two shades of purple like that? Needs more contrast. All the lighter purple/pink needs to be black. And the belt needs a complete redesign.
this design is really an eyesore!
let's just say hypothetically- the show is really funny, and well written.
(very doubtful by looking at this design, but let's say it anyway.)

staring at these overly vibrant clashing colors is serious eyestrain just waiting to happen!
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Old 08-01-2017, 12:30 PM   #83
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Can't remember if I asked yet (in the other thread?) or only thought it... but what's up with the purple straps on Donnie's shoulders? Shell and plastron not real or otherwise removable...?
i think those straps are for using one of those 'Magic Poop Collector' / 'Poop Trap' devices they were trying to sell to dog owners a while ago.

maybe this cartoon show is a new marketing strategy to try to bring them back?
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Old 08-01-2017, 12:30 PM   #84
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this design is really an eyesore!
let's just say hypothetically- the show is really funny, and well written.
(very doubtful by looking at this design, but let's say it anyway.)

staring at these overly vibrant clashing colors is serious eyestrain just waiting to happen!
Agreed. It's like the artist is a troll. Though call me crazy with a total recolor the form isn't terrible. Perhaps someone could give Don some toenail clippers too.
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Old 08-01-2017, 12:35 PM   #85
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Yeah, based on the example of that color pallet, I keep wanting to scan an image or two from my grown up TMNT coloring book and digitally give it the Lisa Frank treatment. (Maybe a Mirage page, that would be hilarious since it doesn't suit it.)

Because if Donnie's coloration is any indication, I feel like a whole series that looks like that is going to look like a Lisa Frank TMNT show.


And if the guys don't recall what Lisa Frank is, it's this stuff, beloved by middle school girls for ages:
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I feel like a whole series that looks like that is going to look like a Lisa Frank TMNT show.


And if the guys don't recall what Lisa Frank is, it's this stuff, beloved by middle school girls for ages:
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YIKES!!!!!!!

yup! they Lisa Frank'd it!!!

they Lisa Frank'd it to HECK!!!!!
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Old 08-01-2017, 12:58 PM   #87
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Not sure where anyone is seeing a Lisa Frank influence because that stuff is way better looking and aesthetically pleasing than the bland CalArts style we saw.

Stop sh*tting on Lisa Frank too, that art is candy in physical form.
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candy has been known to cause cavities and possibly lead to diabetes.
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Old 08-01-2017, 01:58 PM   #89
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Can't remember if I asked yet (in the other thread?) or only thought it... but what's up with the purple straps on Donnie's shoulders? Shell and plastron not real or otherwise removable...?
Maybe it's based off those terrifying figures that had removable shells.
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Old 08-01-2017, 06:48 PM   #90
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I still disagree to that notion. While the 1990 film had some sprinkles of FW in it, it still was more successful than the sequels were. Even the most hardcore FW fans love the film and it was more Mirage than it was FW. This and Deadpool, being low-budget films, were successful enough at box office to make a profit. And if TMNT's fanbase is as small as some say it is, filmmakers should easily be able to do a darker take such as Mirage and there would likely be less complaints. As someone who works at a movie theater, surprisingly I saw a lot of kids being taken to see Deadpool by their parents. One boy and a girl even brought their own Deadpool dolls, which is odd. With a lot of fans having nostalgic feelings towards the original movie, something similar towards that direction would definitely get good buzz.

Beating a dead horse, if Batman can escape the camp association, so can TMNT. Anyone who says otherwise is selling this property short!
And the 4Kids TMNT took far more from Mirage than from Fred Wolf, and it became a bit of a cult favorite among action animation fans.
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Not sure where anyone is seeing a Lisa Frank influence because that stuff is way better looking and aesthetically pleasing than the bland CalArts style we saw.

Stop sh*tting on Lisa Frank too, that art is candy in physical form.
Ain't nothin' against Lisa Frank, that stuff was around back when I was young enough to appreciate it, but I'd prefer the Turtles not look like a similarly psychedelic sugar trip.

And that bright pinky purple Donnie has going on there... Not to ninja-ish if your gear is as bright as reflective safety tape. lol I'm a little afraid that whoever ends up with the lightest green skin may end up looking like a glowing Turtle.
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Old 08-01-2017, 09:02 PM   #92
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I still disagree to that notion. While the 1990 film had some sprinkles of FW in it, it still was more successful than the sequels were. Even the most hardcore FW fans love the film and it was more Mirage than it was FW. This and Deadpool, being low-budget films, were successful enough at box office to make a profit. And if TMNT's fanbase is as small as some say it is, filmmakers should easily be able to do a darker take such as Mirage and there would likely be less complaints. As someone who works at a movie theater, surprisingly I saw a lot of kids being taken to see Deadpool by their parents. One boy and a girl even brought their own Deadpool dolls, which is odd. With a lot of fans having nostalgic feelings towards the original movie, something similar towards that direction would definitely get good buzz.

Beating a dead horse, if Batman can escape the camp association, so can TMNT. Anyone who says otherwise is selling this property short!
My point never was how mirage 4kids was or was not, my point simply was 4kids is definitely a different animal than Mirage, and so were the movies.

Of course TMNT can escape camp, that wasn't my point. My point was how much TMNT had drifted from the source with the various incarnations, and how that continued drift is inevitable.
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Old 08-01-2017, 11:18 PM   #93
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They don't hate us, they just don't care about us. We are not the target audience. The only adults Nick thinks buy TMNT merchandise are only doing so to shut their bratty kids up at the toy store.
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They don't hate us, they just don't care about us. We are not the target audience. The only adults Nick thinks buy TMNT merchandise are only doing so to shut their bratty kids up at the toy store.
That's not true at all. The IDW comics were greenlit for adults (everything that happens in it is a nod to older series only adults would know about) and half the toys made nowadays from all those other companies are aimed at collectors in the adult market.

The Nick cartoon was also written to be enjoyed by everyone of all ages.
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That's not true at all. The IDW comics were greenlit for adults
Why is Nick stepping in and making IDW censor it constantly, then? And Nickelodeon had nothing to do with the IDW comics beyond, "OK, we'll allow you to do this comic if you pay us X in licensing fees and give us veto power over every issue you put out."
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Do they hate us? Nah, but they do need to copy off Disney's homework as to how to properly handle a popular franchise that they've purchased.
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Old 08-02-2017, 10:39 AM   #97
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Do they hate us? Nah, but they do need to copy off Disney's homework as to how to properly handle a popular franchise that they've purchased.
Remake the first movie but pretend it's a sequel with Venus leading the team, then make an April O'Neil spinoff movie?

I dunno...
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Old 08-02-2017, 10:48 AM   #98
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Remake the first movie but pretend it's a sequel with Venus leading the team, then make an April O'Neil spinoff movie?

I dunno...
True, but I'll take the Rebels cartoon over Nickelodeon's TMNT series. I guess I should really give more credit to Dave Filoni than Disney for that though.
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As a series it's an interesting time capsule of one kind of 90s comic.
Especially since there's a damn near straight line from that incarnation to what we've got from the PD flicks.
How is the Image series anything like the PD films?
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How is the Image series anything like the PD films?
Bias on the table, I've read more Savage Dragon and Vanguard than I did the TMNT run from Image, and I've only seen the first PD movie.

That said, the 'roided out physiques, and bombastic violence and action set pieces in the first PD movie are very reminiscent of similar things found in 90s era Image books. Which, to me, seemed to take the muscle-bound stuff from the Two Big and turn them up to 11.

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