New mutants serving Shredder in future shows - Page 3

*Andrew NDB* · 08-30-2017, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tetsu Deinonychus

What about the weird Mutant Shredder Clones?

They worked for me in Mirage (big surprise) where they weren't mutants or clones (not exactly). I mean, it made sense. Each one was an experiment of the Foot/Mashima to make sure the Oroku Saki resurrection would be a successful one, and they were kept around just in case they were ever needed.

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And, I don't think Shredder always needs hench-mutants either.

I don't think he ever needs hench-mutants. As soon as you make Oroku Saki into the kind of Foot leader that would hire someone like Bebop or Rocksteady to do stuff for his covert ninja organization, he immediately loses all credibility.

*Powder* · 08-30-2017, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I don't think he ever needs hench-mutants. As soon as you make Oroku Saki into the kind of Foot leader that would hire someone like Bebop or Rocksteady to do stuff for his covert ninja organization, he immediately loses all credibility.

Exactly. The guy's a basically a Yakuza ninja master. The key element to his nefarious operation carrying on successfully is having men who are stealthy, silent, & consistently lethal. A proper Shredder just needs ninja. None of this Fred Wolf-born monsters breaking into banks typa nonsense. In my mind, he should hate mutants, both for what they've personally done to him, & for how they can be equated to demons of Japanese folklore.

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 08-30-2017, 04:52 PM

The idea that Shredder, as a ninja, would only use his ninja underlings and not mutate and use thugs like Bebop and Rocksteady... is an unrealistic and hollow fantasy.

Ninjas used ANYTHING; any advantage, any ally, any weapon- in order to be successful. Swords failing you? Get guns and explosives. Normal ninja stealth tricks not working? camo gear and stealth equipment. His ninjas fail in dealing with the turtles? Get two stupid punks who aren't trained ninja (that way, if the mutation is fatal, no loss to the foot) turn them into indestructible monsters, and turn them loose on the TMNT to destroy them. If those two loud, un-ninja death machines get captured or killed- no loss or provable connection to the foot clan.

I always roll my eyes at junk like 'ninja clans wouldn't use modern weapons', 'ninja wouldn't ally with gajin, or allow gajin to join!', or 'ninja are always cool blood-soaked badass killers'. Oy vey!

*Powder* · 08-30-2017, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

unrealistic and hollow fantasy.

Kinda like most things post-Mirage.

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 08-30-2017, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Kinda like most things post-Mirage.

Ehhhh, I'd say about half-and-half. Some good, some bad. Your mileage may vary.

*pferreira* · 08-31-2017, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

Ehhhh, I'd say about half-and-half. Some good, some bad. Your mileage may vary.

Unless a fan is a purist?

08-30-2017, 04:52 PM	#43
Panda_Kahn_fan Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,715	The idea that Shredder, as a ninja, would only use his ninja underlings and not mutate and use thugs like Bebop and Rocksteady... is an unrealistic and hollow fantasy. Ninjas used ANYTHING; any advantage, any ally, any weapon- in order to be successful. Swords failing you? Get guns and explosives. Normal ninja stealth tricks not working? camo gear and stealth equipment. His ninjas fail in dealing with the turtles? Get two stupid punks who aren't trained ninja (that way, if the mutation is fatal, no loss to the foot) turn them into indestructible monsters, and turn them loose on the TMNT to destroy them. If those two loud, un-ninja death machines get captured or killed- no loss or provable connection to the foot clan. I always roll my eyes at junk like 'ninja clans wouldn't use modern weapons', 'ninja wouldn't ally with gajin, or allow gajin to join!', or 'ninja are always cool blood-soaked badass killers'. Oy vey!