Video Game rights - what's the story?

[Vegita-San]

So..

Why can't we get all the tmnt games worth releasing in a compilation?

By that, I mean,

TMNT 1-2-3 on nes.
Turles in Time TF's SNES

Arcade 1 and 2.

Gameboy 1, 2, 3, TMNT (Movie), 4Kids Games.

Gamecube 3D games. TMNT1/2/3


those are the only ones i remember worth owning.
I just wish someone would treat the tmnt with at least a LITTLE enthusiasm and respect. this should have happened a long time ago by now!

[ToTheNines]

If the NES Classic Edition had the trilogy, I'd sh*t. I bet I could beat the first game if saving progress was an option.

[oldmanwinters]

Maybe one day, Konami will realize the potential profits are worth the rights negotiation. Hopefully, they can secure the usage of original Turtles in Time arcade music next time.

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

If the NES Classic Edition had the trilogy, I'd sh*t. I bet I could beat the first game if saving progress was an option.

Even without game save, you can do it. You have my support.

[CyberCubed]

How is this hard to understand, Vegita-san? TMNT is a licensed property since its not a videogame franchise. Other companies can't release different publishers games.

TMNT changes license holders to whoeever wants to make a new game. The current license holders do not own the rights to the classic games, only Konami does. So they can't be re-released.

I seriously can't believe people don't know this.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

TMNT is a licensed property since its not a videogame franchise. Other companies can't release different publishers games.

TMNT changes license holders to whoeever wants to make a new game. The current license holders do not own the rights to the classic games, only Konami does. So they can't be re-released.

Than how the hell was Ubisoft able to do a remake of a Konami game?

[DevilSpooky]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Oh, so it was a faithful adaptation, then?

I can still remember throwing the SNES controller at the TV trying to throw Foot Soldiers at the screen, or whatever. Next to impossible.

Maybe, I don't know, try and learn how the game works? I can throw Foot Soldiers at the screen 99% of the time, you just run and charge into them and then hit them again while they're stunned and you should throw them.

Originally Posted by Xav

Than how the hell was Ubisoft able to do a remake of a Konami game?

Because they didn't release the same game, they remade it, it works differently that way.

[The Deadman]

Originally Posted by Xav

Than how the hell was Ubisoft able to do a remake of a Konami game?

Ubisoft had the rights to TMNT games when they did Turtles in Time ReShelled.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Even without game save, you can do it. You have my support.

Lol, you made my day. Your avatar makes it even better.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Lol, you made my day. Your avatar makes it even better.

Seriously, I'm really good at the original NES game and play through it from time to time just to relive the joy of beating it. Lemme know if I can give you any help!

[CyberCubed]

I've beaten the NES TMNT game many times, I think the first time was when I was around 15 or so.

The Technodrome level is hard as hell, both to find it and deal with those ice guys with jetpacks. Shredder can also kill you in 1 hit.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Maybe one day, Konami will realize the potential profits are worth the rights negotiation.

What, in re-releasing TMNT 1-3 from NES? Like 4 people would buy them, and they're all probably on this forum.

[Powder]

The original NES game was on the Wii's virtual console store for quite a number of years.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by Powder

The original NES game was on the Wii's virtual console store for quite a number of years.

I'm so glad I bought it before the license ran out, only reason why I still haven't packed down my Wii when I also have the WiiU.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

What, in re-releasing TMNT 1-3 from NES? Like 4 people would buy them, and they're all probably on this forum.

If you must know, I was thinking more along the lines of the original Arcade game and the SNES port of Turtles in Time.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

If you must know, I was thinking more along the lines of the original Arcade game and the SNES port of Turtles in Time.

Apparently the refurbished "Turtles in Time Reshelled" didn't even curry enough sales to warrant Ubisoft bothering to renew their license with Nick... I don't wager literal ports of those would do much better. I think they even slashed their intended price before it came out because they only had like the same 4 guys pre-ordering it.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

What, in re-releasing TMNT 1-3 from NES? Like 4 people would buy them, and they're all probably on this forum.

Hrmm. No, I think there's more goodwill to releasing a nostalgia pack than you think. Re-Shelled didn't do so well at the time, but 2009 in TMNT is a lot than these days. Sure, the recent games have severely under performed and the new movie franchise has ended...but the Nick show is still out and the toys and comics still sell well. I think with such a black eye on TMNT games at the moment, a cool way to overt that would be a Sonic Mania type strategy with those old Konami games.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

that's because it was bat **** terrible.

The graphics where ok and the voices where nice. but the game play was horribly teedious and badly controlled.

Oh, so it was a faithful adaptation, then?

I can still remember throwing the SNES controller at the TV trying to throw Foot Soldiers at the screen, or whatever. Next to impossible.

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

if it's not mirage, or violent, he thinks people aren't interested

Huh? How is that remotely relevant? #1) All the Konami TMNT games are violent. In fact, that's all they are. Just walking left to right, mashing 2 buttons to smack rainbow colored Foot Soldiers over and over again with not even really an illusion of plot progression. #2) It's not a matter of opinion if people are interested or not, it's a matter of fact. You know what gaming company out there doesn't renew a license to be able to continue selling a best-selling game?

No one. That's who.

Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL

Hrmm. No, I think there's more goodwill to releasing a nostalgia pack than you think. Re-Shelled didn't do so well at the time, but 2009 in TMNT is a lot than these days. Sure, the recent games have severely under performed and the new movie franchise has ended...but the Nick show is still out and the toys and comics still sell well. I think with such a black eye on TMNT games at the moment, a cool way to overt that would be a Sonic Mania type strategy with those old Konami games.

Maybe. They'll obviously try something, but I don't think playing on hipster nostalgia is going to be what they try, particularly after OotS failed and the slow realization dawning on them of the math equation that Bebop + Cowabunga + Technodrome doesn't necessarily = $$$. Let alone crappy Final Fight NES clones from 20 years ago. Maybe some 30 year old in a plaid shirt and a man bun heading up a startup video game company will throw them onto some cheap gaming network, leave them on there, and then be forced to take them down in 6 months when the games fail to even make back the money it probably took to get the 6 month license with Nick/Konami to begin with.

[pferreira]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

What, in re-releasing TMNT 1-3 from NES? Like 4 people would buy them, and they're all probably on this forum.

I think you underestimate the audience. Those games are part of any Nes collector's collection. They would do well.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Oh, so it was a faithful adaptation, then?

I can still remember throwing the SNES controller at the TV trying to throw Foot Soldiers at the screen, or whatever. Next to impossible.

Considering the Snes game is seen as a classic a lot of people would disagree with you that the game is unplayable.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by pferreira

I think you underestimate the audience. Those games are part of any Nes collector's collection. They would do well.

Considering the Snes game is seen as a classic a lot of people would disagree with you that the game is unplayable.

bingo..i had no problem learning the controls on the SNES game. in fact, they work better in the SNES game than they do the arcade game, where throwing foot soldiers at the screen seems more random and the physics are not as good. usually it's the reverse.

also, occasionally forget to log in and accidentally see cubed posts... lol..

[The Deadman]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

So..

Why can't we get all the tmnt games worth releasing in a compilation?

By that, I mean,

TMNT 1-2-3 on nes.
Turles in Time TF's SNES

Arcade 1 and 2.

Gameboy 1, 2, 3, TMNT (Movie), 4Kids Games.

Gamecube 3D games. TMNT1/2/3


those are the only ones i remember worth owning.
I just wish someone would treat the tmnt with at least a LITTLE enthusiasm and respect. this should have happened a long time ago by now!

Because some of those games, even if they could be re-released, would more than likely go onto the digital store of the console they debuted on? Like you're never going to see the original NES TMNT game on anything else because that was a Nintendo game.