Does anyone here love the OT but not OOTS? - Page 3

*DarkFell* · 12-13-2016, 09:52 AM

Candy Kappa is actually a lady.

*Andrew NDB* · 12-13-2016, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey

OOTS was a multi-million dollar live action film that took lazy plot points from the cartoon and duct taped together rewrites and reshoots into an ugly Frankenstein's monster.

I don't think they did any significant rewrites or reshoots on this. Unlike 2014, equally horrible, this time around they put on the screen exactly the movie they set out to make.

*pferreira* · 12-15-2016, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

To be honest, I think those who only grew up with the OT and nothing else in this franchise, don't remember it that well other than it being nostalgic.

I think the people behind the new movie didn't quite get the 80s Turtles. If they were going to make a live action version of the Fred Wolf cartoon they should have gone all out in style and plot. Forcing elements of the 80s Turtles into a PD movie that already has it's own identity from the 2014 movie wasn't the way it should of been done but like I said it was still a better movie than the 2014 one which was very underwhelming although for some reason that was better received.

Lisardo · 12-16-2016, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81

I thought OT stood for "old toon" or "original toon" because it is the original cartoon...

Yeah exactly, it's the original (the first) cartoon, hence OT.

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Can't speak for others, but I prefer FW over OT, since the 1987 show isn't the Original incarnation. MWS works too but FW is shorter and Murakami-Wolf-Swenson changed their name to Fred Wolf Films in '92

But the OT isn't the first incarnation, just the first toon. I guess you could call it TMNT'87 also.

*LeotheLateBloomer* · 12-16-2016, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pferreira

I think the people behind the new movie didn't quite get the 80s Turtles. If they were going to make a live action version of the Fred Wolf cartoon they should have gone all out in style and plot. Forcing elements of the 80s Turtles into a PD movie that already has it's own identity from the 2014 movie wasn't the way it should of been done but like I said it was still a better movie than the 2014 one which was very underwhelming although for some reason that was better received.

In other words, they tried to go for what's popular without learning what made it popular.

I wouldn't say better recieved but made more money than the sequel. The fact that it was still tied to it's predecessor was the damaging part.

*pferreira* · 12-22-2016, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

In other words, they tried to go for what's popular without learning what made it popular.

I wouldn't say better recieved but made more money than the sequel. The fact that it was still tied to it's predecessor was the damaging part.

Oh I agree. They included vague memories the writers had of the 80s cartoon into the 2016 movie and not what it was actually about in style or plot. I say the 2014 film was better received as it made more money which meant that enough people were curious enough to go see it for it to be a success. Any goodwill the first film got had disappeared by the time the 2016 movie came out, disappointing as I see because I thought it was slightly better.

wvfan · 12-31-2016, 08:10 PM

Ill take OT but thats what I grew up with.

I cant stand anything Bay puts his hands in but Bay turtles was bad but I still watched them and if the did a third i watch it but I waited for them to hit the redbox.

I never really watched the Fox kids Tmnt. I got a xmas themed dvd for xmas with a few eps on it but i couldnt really get into it. Maybe if I start at the ep 1 I would like it better.

I do really enjoy the nicko tmnt with my daughter. There is parts of it as old school fan that Im not into but I tend to think of every new verison of tmnt as a stand alone and dont really compare them. Its kind of like DC comics earth one, Earth 2 and so on and so on.

I put Bay turtles down there with next mutation but Next is still better.

*THGhost* · 01-01-2017, 03:55 PM

I like both, neither are perfect and I can look past their flaws.

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

the animated one was a family friendly depiction of the original comics.

Nope, definitely was not.

Technogeek29 · 01-01-2017, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

I was recently wondering, if there are tmnt fans out there who love the original cartoon but aren't fans of tmnt: Out of the Shadows? I ask because I am noticing a pattern, that the same people here who hate Oots are critics of the 80s series who say its a bad show and a parasite on the franchise, while people who love that show enjoyed the movie. So are there any fans who have differing views about the two? (Most preferably people who are fans of the OT, but not the movie. I doubt there are any fans of OOTS who hate the cartoon).

Hate? No I like the OT I don't mind subtle references to it now and then (Issue 40 is the beginning fight to Shreddered & Splntered) I still watch all my favorite episodes and quote them often oddly enough every one of FW Leo's cornball lines I find the most memorable. But much like hangover you can't shake I am a little tired of it blatantly showing up in every medium of TMNT even IDW being one of my favorites irks me with is FWisms when they do crop up. I still watch the episodes here and there and certainly don't mind discussing it. Just not when it comes to how much FW did this while in another series (Nick being the biggest offender) but feel free to ignore me, my griping about the OT could be a running joke by now.

Walkabout · 01-01-2017, 06:36 PM

Like the original Transformers cartoon, I grew up on (well, a couple of season's worth) the FW show.
I'm not blind to the "faults" of these cartoons (they are 80's Saturday morning cartoons, they are what they are) but I despise the twisted, bastardised Michael Bay "reworkings" of both franchises and wish they never happened.

*pferreira* · 01-05-2017, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by THGhost

Nope, definitely was not.

I know. The cartoon was considered violent by adult groups or more specifically parents at the time. Interesting how things change.

Casey · 08-16-2017, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I don't think they did any significant rewrites or reshoots on this. Unlike 2014, equally horrible, this time around they put on the screen exactly the movie they set out to make.

Well, that's even more pathetic then.

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12-31-2016, 08:10 PM	#47
wvfan Random Punk Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: WV Posts: 34	Ill take OT but thats what I grew up with. I cant stand anything Bay puts his hands in but Bay turtles was bad but I still watched them and if the did a third i watch it but I waited for them to hit the redbox. I never really watched the Fox kids Tmnt. I got a xmas themed dvd for xmas with a few eps on it but i couldnt really get into it. Maybe if I start at the ep 1 I would like it better. I do really enjoy the nicko tmnt with my daughter. There is parts of it as old school fan that Im not into but I tend to think of every new verison of tmnt as a stand alone and dont really compare them. Its kind of like DC comics earth one, Earth 2 and so on and so on. I put Bay turtles down there with next mutation but Next is still better.