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Old 05-19-2018, 11:12 PM   #61
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kids are starting to gravitate AWAY from action figures and tv shows and tv in general. they are finding their entertainment elsewhere. hell, some of the most popular stuff on youtube now are people playing video games and commenting on them.

If hollywood doesn't figure out that people don't like their products, they won't be around for the next generation. things just don't catch on like they used to, and I Think that is bad. it means that nothing is imaginative anymore to spark the creative fire.
Because online streaming, youtube, etc. exists.

You're a 40 year old man yelling at clouds. Kids today aren't going to like what any previous generation did and they don't have to. TV is dying because people watch shows online now.

What does it matter?
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Old 05-20-2018, 02:11 AM   #62
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People are still watching shows, even if other than the traditional way, so there's still call for them.

I don't think it's that people expect shows to be exactly the same in every way as their version (okay not all people), you know they'll develop, it's just at the moment this particular look/type is very different and ugly to some. Anyway as pointed out it's what they think kids currently like, it will change again. Saying that though, my 6-yr-old likes the action type toons... There's room for variation even if this type gets more populaity.

So, how long did the last one last? 1 season, 2?
and how many HE-MAN reboots were there? 2? I remember catching sight of one when channel surfing back in around 96 I think.

I don't know, if they want to do this sort of thing, maybe just do totally new things?

I don't think I care enough to be arguing with people over it.

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Old 05-20-2018, 03:12 AM   #63
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Because online streaming, youtube, etc. exists.

You're a 40 year old man yelling at clouds. Kids today aren't going to like what any previous generation did and they don't have to. TV is dying because people watch shows online now.

What does it matter?
Some people are obsessed with that everything has to be like during their childhood.
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Old 05-20-2018, 03:23 AM   #64
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Some people are obsessed with that everything has to be like during their childhood.
Speaking of (sorry to come off topic) Mark Hamil tweeted something like 'May ep 9 be perfect and not ruin anyone's childhood' I found that funny.

I get people can feel something they like has been damaged as in what is has become but I don't quite get the 'ruined childhood'. Unless Rise has the ability to wipe an OT (or other version) ep from existence every time it airs

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Old 05-20-2018, 04:17 AM   #65
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Some people are obsessed with that everything has to be like during their childhood.
and some people are weirdo's,(not you, you're quoted quote there) obsessed with peoples age, thinking it matters. people of ANY age can recognize crap. even the people working on it.

hopefully those talented people will land on their feet to something better, rather than populate tv land with this un imaginative crap.

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Speaking of (sorry to come off topic) Mark Hamil tweeted something like 'May ep 9 be perfect and not ruin anyone's childhood' I found that funny.

I get people can feel something they like has been damaged as in what is has become but I don't quite get the 'ruined childhood'. Unless Rise has the ability to wipe an OT (or other version) ep from existence every time it airs


Star wars is the rare example where I Think it CAN ruin a child hood experience.
all that struggle of the rebel alliance basically meant nothing. they lost in the end and luke destroyed himself into a bitter old man. it's the literal definition of crapping on someones child hood. take the most happy and selfless character, and totally change him into something he's not.

even 30 years of eu didn't do that to luke after all the tradgedy he witnessed. and he was still a very likeable character right up to the very end. the last jedi undid all that with one flash back. when you go back and watch the old movies, it's harder to enjoy them a little bit, because you know what their 'official' future leads to. something a bit depressing and pointless.
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Old 05-20-2018, 08:19 AM   #66
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Some people are are obsessed with characters they grown up with from the original. And want to see them all grown up rather then starting all over again with a reboot.

I know many here like myself. Have grown up with the FW TMNT. and wish we see that continue and show us what they are like as adults. They can't be teenagers forever.

I can understand why people are upset about this ThunderCats reboot. Cause they think its tarnishing the legacy of the original. By making complete fun at it.
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Star Wars

Star Wars isn't a remake or reboot. It's the same story continuing.
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Old 05-20-2018, 09:28 AM   #68
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Star wars is the rare example where I Think it CAN ruin a child hood experience.
all that struggle of the rebel alliance basically meant nothing. they lost in the end and luke destroyed himself into a bitter old man. it's the literal definition of crapping on someones child hood. take the most happy and selfless character, and totally change him into something he's not.
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I shouldn't have brought SW to this thread really, (sorry peeps) it is a different thing (as pointed out above) in that it continues the story and version of 'our characters' With these toons they are all their own incarnations of the characters. I think I may just be taking 'ruined childhood' a bit too literally, people may just likely mean something they have enjoyed seems ruined or them

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Old 05-20-2018, 10:37 AM   #69
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Star wars is the rare example where I Think it CAN ruin a child hood experience.
all that struggle of the rebel alliance basically meant nothing. they lost in the end and luke destroyed himself into a bitter old man. it's the literal definition of crapping on someones child hood. take the most happy and selfless character, and totally change him into something he's not.

even 30 years of eu didn't do that to luke after all the tradgedy he witnessed. and he was still a very likeable character right up to the very end. the last jedi undid all that with one flash back. when you go back and watch the old movies, it's harder to enjoy them a little bit, because you know what their 'official' future leads to. something a bit depressing and pointless.
Wow, it's almost like this is what happens in wars and with countries in real life.
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Old 05-20-2018, 10:50 AM   #70
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Some people are are obsessed with characters they grown up with from the original. And want to see them all grown up rather then starting all over again with a reboot.

I know many here like myself. Have grown up with the FW TMNT. and wish we see that continue and show us what they are like as adults. They can't be teenagers forever.

I can understand why people are upset about this ThunderCats reboot. Cause they think its tarnishing the legacy of the original. By making complete fun at it.
Agree for the most part. I don't need TMNT to be the FW version (I'd rather lean toward a 2003-ish style if anything), but I do get tired of reboot after reboot and would rather just a continuation. Change art style and even tone (to an extent) per series, fine... but not in a way that makes it look foolish. I never really had any attachment to Thundercats and did not watch it very often as a kid, but taking something more serious as it was and turning it into something that looks so foolish is still rather off-putting. Same for TMNT, but well.. I guess we can say that it at least isn't this bad.

If makers really are losing kids attention, then maybe someday they really will wake up and change course and put a bit more focus on a viable adult audience they can still draw with these older properties.

For the time being in this fad of such foolish looking nonsense... Is it really so hard to come up with original shows to use that style for?
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Old 05-20-2018, 07:42 PM   #72
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reading some comments. supposedly that victor guy is on twitter trashing the original show and it's fans. just like most reboot creators seem to do these days when producing crap.

can't seem to find evidence of this though. maybe someone here will hit pay dirt.
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Old 05-21-2018, 08:28 AM   #73
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Get the original voice cast back, and I am all over that.
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I found this in relation to the new show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qi41rHz4ps
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Old 05-21-2018, 10:31 AM   #76
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I found this in relation to the new show

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Old 05-21-2018, 01:08 PM   #77
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That Nico guy isn't a part of Roar? So who cares?
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Old 05-21-2018, 01:13 PM   #78
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I thought he was staff on the show? The way it was posted made it seem like it.

If I'm wrong, I'll delete it. but if there is one like that with possible staffers trashing folks, there are probably others.
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Nope, he's not staff. He was just being sassy with some whiny man-babies on twitter and got pegged as a showrunner by them,yet never made any such claims.
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People criticized the cartoons of my youth for promoting an unobtainable body image, because the characters looked like bodybuilders. By that logic, I put it to you that kids these days will grow up thinking that they need to look like plates of salmon moose.
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