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Old 12-24-2019, 03:17 PM   #1
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If you could have given the FW series a different ending...

...what would it be like?

I'm generally fine with the way the series ended, but I think it should have ended with a major final battle against Shredder and Krang. In fact, that's how I imagined it would end. It's kinda funny how most of the show was about the Turtles trying to stop Shredder and Krang and getting Shredder nearly every single episode with him always getting away. It was a chronic cat and mouse chase type of deal. Yet, the show ended with a completely different main villain.

The season 3 finale felt pretty epic when I first watched it. And Shredder Triumphant, the season 7 finale had a very final episode vibe to it and I honestly thought that was gonna be it... but it wasn't as we all know.And Turtle Trek also felt like a final episode, but again it wasn't. So a final battle vs. Shredder and Krang had to be REALLY EPIC. Not sure what I'd do with it, but it just feels like the logical way to end the show, really, and I suspect most of you will say something like that as well. How would you do it, though?
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Old 12-25-2019, 12:11 AM   #2
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I am one of those people who think that the FW series had a perfect ending, the best of all tmnt cartoon endings bar none.

Even though it ended in the less iconic Red Sky era, the FW series ending has (almost) everything, for the reasons below:

1. The turtles finally become Splinter's equals after 10 seasons.

2. They finally defeat Dregg, who perhaps was their greatest threat after absorbing all those aliens (it also spares Shredder and Krang from being killed off).

Plus, Dregg was so bloodlusted at that point that even Krang called him insane.

3. We get to see the technodrome one last time, in ruins and abandoned (honestly creates a great atmosphere).

4. Krang's android body finally gets to show its true power after being teased all the way in the 1st season ("No force on earth will be able to stop me!")

The only things I would've changed was to make the setting in the normal Blue Sky aesthetic (same for the entire Red Sky seasons), and give Shredder and Krang some sort of actual physical appearance alongside Dregg rather than just being mentioned (although I still wouldn't have killed them off).
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The biggest villains were the censors.
What they could do without being held back is my question.
Shredder could've done more than blow up the Channel Six building.
I don't mean as far as murdering Splinter, but think of the possibilities if censors were not an issue.
Shredder and Krang combined had the biggest arsenal of any villains in all of the cartoons.
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Old 12-25-2019, 02:35 PM   #3
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I am one of those people who think that the FW series had a perfect ending, the best of all tmnt cartoon endings bar none.

Even though it ended in the less iconic Red Sky era, the FW series ending has (almost) everything, for the reasons below:

1. The turtles finally become Splinter's equals after 10 seasons.

2. They finally defeat Dregg, who perhaps was their greatest threat after absorbing all those aliens (it also spares Shredder and Krang from being killed off).

Plus, Dregg was so bloodlusted at that point that even Krang called him insane.

3. We get to see the technodrome one last time, in ruins and abandoned (honestly creates a great atmosphere).

4. Krang's android body finally gets to show its true power after being teased all the way in the 1st season ("No force on earth will be able to stop me!")

The only things I would've changed was to make the setting in the normal Blue Sky aesthetic (same for the entire Red Sky seasons), and give Shredder and Krang some sort of actual physical appearance alongside Dregg rather than just being mentioned (although I still wouldn't have killed them off).
It was definitely a pretty solid final episode for the series. Even though you don't see it, I've always assumed Dregg died. However, nothing implies that Shredder and Krang were gone forever. All we knew was that they were stuck in Dimension X. If they were able to survive the massive alien plant in Turtle Trek, then I don't see why they couldn't possibly come back again after we saw them in the Turtles to the Second Power three-parter in season 10. It's not like they were hobos starving to death in Dimension X.

I'd hesitate to kill them as well, tbh. Shredder was a bad guy in the series but kinda "cool" and likeable. Plus, they got embarrassed by the Turtles so often that you just couldn't help but feel bad for them. And even the Turtles at some point didn't care that they always got away at the end of the episode. It's like it became some sort of "Stockholm Syndrome" deal. Both parties needed each other, and a lot of the episodes without Shredder and Krang weren't that good.
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Old 12-25-2019, 11:19 PM   #4
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It was definitely a pretty solid final episode for the series. Even though you don't see it, I've always assumed Dregg died. However, nothing implies that Shredder and Krang were gone forever. All we knew was that they were stuck in Dimension X. If they were able to survive the massive alien plant in Turtle Trek, then I don't see why they couldn't possibly come back again after we saw them in the Turtles to the Second Power three-parter in season 10. It's not like they were hobos starving to death in Dimension X.

I'd hesitate to kill them as well, tbh. Shredder was a bad guy in the series but kinda "cool" and likeable. Plus, they got embarrassed by the Turtles so often that you just couldn't help but feel bad for them. And even the Turtles at some point didn't care that they always got away at the end of the episode. It's like it became some sort of "Stockholm Syndrome" deal. Both parties needed each other, and a lot of the episodes without Shredder and Krang weren't that good.
I actually thought Dregg would've died too.
Sure, we don't actually see it directly but he was caught in the massive explosion and it was the final episode so he is most likely dead for all intents and purposes.

And the thought of Shredder and Krang being homeless hobos in Dimension X who beg for food and money cracks me up for some reason

I agree too that Shredder and Krang are too likeable to be killed off.
Atleast their last appearance had them help the turtles indirectly by fighting Lord Dregg (whom they were surprisingly competent against).
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What they could do without being held back is my question.
Shredder could've done more than blow up the Channel Six building.
I don't mean as far as murdering Splinter, but think of the possibilities if censors were not an issue.
Shredder and Krang combined had the biggest arsenal of any villains in all of the cartoons.
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Old 12-26-2019, 01:59 AM   #5
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The best would had been to kill the turtles and splinter!. I and krang then went to live in one of dimension x planets because we didnt have the portal to return to earth but we found some friendly aleins who took us in their home. That was until 2003 when i became Utrom and i came back to earth !
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The team-up between Dregg, Shredder and Krang should have been the finale, it tied up virtually every loose end, even Carter. Had the last part of that arc ended with Splinter telling the Turtles they had 'graduated' then it would have been perfect.
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Old 12-26-2019, 09:09 AM   #7
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The team-up between Dregg, Shredder and Krang should have been the finale, it tied up virtually every loose end, even Carter. Had the last part of that arc ended with Splinter telling the Turtles they had 'graduated' then it would have been perfect.
This is actually what I was going to post. It seemed odd that Dregg immediately came back striking from Dimension X yet Shredder and Krang also in Dimension X did not. It needed to end with Shredder and Krang not Dregg in a final battle. Turtle Trek left it open like Shredder and Krang would strike yet again, but ultimately did not. There needed to be some closure instead of Shredder and Krang wondering around Dimension X allegedly stuck there. Krang could rebuild and would be content eventually, but Shredder needed to end up jailed on Earth after some finality.
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This conversation has actually prompted me to edit the final scene of "Divide and Conquer" into the climax of "Turtles to the Second Power"

The actual final scene of "Turtles to the Second Power" annoyed me, it doesn't end on a punch line or something from the Turtles, the last word goes to Carer, he is transported to the future and then it just abruptly ends, so the new ending I find adds a lot more closure to things.
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Old 12-26-2019, 11:03 AM   #9
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This conversation has actually prompted me to edit the final scene of "Divide and Conquer" into the climax of "Turtles to the Second Power"

The actual final scene of "Turtles to the Second Power" annoyed me, it doesn't end on a punch line or something from the Turtles, the last word goes to Carer, he is transported to the future and then it just abruptly ends, so the new ending I find adds a lot more closure to things.
It would have fit better.

Slightly off topic, it also annoyed me that we did not get the '88-'93 designs. It would have emphasized the different time small budget or not. The impact the series had deserved a proper budget and I believe that visual difference would have helped the story. Also, the budget would have shown the VAs more appreciation and Rob would not have walked to Warner Bros.
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Old 12-26-2019, 12:33 PM   #10
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Karai shows up, kicks Shredder out of the Technodrome, sells that thing for scrapmetal and turns Krang into calamari.
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Karai shows up, kicks Shredder out of the Technodrome, sells that thing for scrapmetal and turns Krang into calamari.
Wasn't that the hypothetical FW City at War adaptation?
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What they could do without being held back is my question.
Shredder could've done more than blow up the Channel Six building.
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Shredder and Krang combined had the biggest arsenal of any villains in all of the cartoons.
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Old 12-27-2019, 08:50 AM   #12
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Wasn't that the hypothetical FW City at War adaptation?
Wouldn't that be fitting though?
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Old 03-05-2020, 02:40 PM   #13
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They should have spent the last season giving closure to the roster of villains and reoccurring characters. The last episode should have been a two parter and had an epic battle between the TMNT and Shredder/Krang the forces of Dimension X.
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