Don’t Expect a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3, Says Producer

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I blame the director.
It's their job to get the best performance out of their cast, and to make a questionable script great.

Hey, the new kid in class didn't get any say in that casting, maybe mediocre is the best some actors can give. lol

To be fair, had he not been shoehorned in and given a proper look and persona Amell would be okay I guess. Fox... I suppose she did better, though it could simply be an illusion based on seeing less of her and her vague emoting.

[Powder]

I do think Meghan did a better job than last time, but like you said, it may just have been that she's easier to take in small doses. & on a second, digital viewing, I was able to skip the parts that focused on the human cast, which helped a little.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Hey, the new kid in class didn't get any say in that casting, maybe mediocre is the best some actors can give. lol

To be fair, had he not been shoehorned in and given a proper look and persona Amell would be okay I guess. Fox... I suppose she did better, though it could simply be an illusion based on seeing less of her and her vague emoting.

Being supposedly hot, fox didn't have to learn to act. and now it's showing.


as for the rest, don't know enough about them.
especially the voice actors. have they done anything else before this? the voices all sounded so similar and bland.

[plastroncafe]

With the exception of Splinter and Leonardo, I do believe all of the cg characters were mo-capped by the same actors providing the voices.

I know the guy who plays Donatello from a bit part he had in Galaxy Quest, and the guy playing Michelangeo plays "Mickey" on the Showtime series Shameless.

And I want to say the guy who did the motion capture for Leonardo was on Smallville, but they ultimately went with Johnny Knoxville of Jackass fame for his voice.

Why? I have absolutely no idea.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by METALHEAD

I hate that we are left in a cliff hanger.

What cliff hanger? The movie ends with the Turtles saving the world and celebrating in the Statue of Liberty.

[IndigoErth]

Well, Pete Ploszek was able to voice Leo this time. Don't really know all that much about the guy, though in passing - in my search to try to figure how who Leo's voice would be in the second because it took so damn long for anyone to just say - I'd seen he's got some recurring part (as a teacher?) on the Teen Wolf series. (Think it's an Mtv series?)

And a few other single ep appearances for a few shows, as listed on Wikipedia. Don't see Smallville, but that sounds familiar, maybe it was one of the others?

Originally Posted by Xav

What cliff hanger? The movie ends with the Turtles saving the world and celebrating in the Statue of Liberty.

The Shredder part probably.

Freezing him and he just goes away forever and Krang never really being much of a real threat... that ended far too easily. Left me feeling that there just HAS to be another attempt made by Krang and be an actual threat, why would he stop there, and for Shredder to end up with an actual part in it, which will never come... Stupid film people.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Freezing him and he just goes away forever and Krang never really being much of a real threat...

I loved the big reveal after the movie was over... that the true villain was the tepid box office.

And that'd be a pretty dumb bit of storytelling. "Remember Krang and his Technodrome? Remember how they did absolutely nothing in the last movie, and that was kind of a bummer? Well get ready for it... in Turtles the Movie Part 3, Krang and the Technodrome will return and maybe will do something this time! Guaranteed, but no guarantees!"

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

[IndigoErth]

Posing a threat is how they'd keep it fresh and exciting! Give the fans that they want - villains who... do things! Bad things! Like... take two minutes longer to be sent packing!


Really the Turtles didn't even have to fight Krang that tiny bit had they only figured out and gotten to the beacon sooner.

[Vegita-San]

so the movie starred basically bad actors, including madea... a Karai that I think had about 2 minutes of screen time total and no lines.....

And voice actors who are anything butt and have had little to no screen time as bit extras in other projects, it seems.


oh, and don't forget the producers and director who cared so little one wanted to make them aliens and have the movie star april oneil... and the other can't even get the characters names right.

and people defend this lackluster effort....WHY?

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Both Fox and Amell could be perfectly suitable Aprils and Caseys in a "real" TMNT movie that actually gave a sh*t. The best choices? Maybe not, but perfectly serviceable.

Yeah, I... can't really get behind this either. It's possible, but I've never seen a truly good performance from either of them. Even when they're clearly trying hard, they just feel amateurish.

They make for fine models, but actors? I'm not convinced.

[Leolead]

Originally Posted by Bry

Yeah, I... can't really get behind this either. It's possible, but I've never seen a truly good performance from either of them. Even when they're clearly trying hard, they just feel amateurish.

They make for fine models, but actors? I'm not convinced.

Both of them are terrible actors, and terribly suited for April & Casey. Stephen Amell plays Stephen Amell in every role i've seen him in. Megan just can't act, I'm sorry, she just can't, she's wooden. :/ I would like to see 'real' actors as April & Casey next time around.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Leolead

Both of them are terrible actors, and terribly suited for April & Casey. Stephen Amell plays Stephen Amell in every role i've seen him in. Megan just can't act, I'm sorry, she just can't, she's wooden. :/ I would like to see 'real' actors as April & Casey next time around.

It doesn't help that the biggest "other" live-action versions were played by legitimately terrific actors in Judith Hoag and Elias Koteas, who absolutely nailed the roles. For the fans, at least, it'd take a lot to match them.

You might say... this cast is living in their shadows.

[Andrew NDB]

Hey, I'm not saying Amell or Fox are God's gift to the Screen Actor's Guild, far from it... all I'm saying is let's take off our fanboy goggles for one minute and realize that Casey Jones and April O'Neil aren't Shakespeare and neither role necessarily requires anything remotely approaching A-list actors or actresses. Technically both Fox and Amell are way more accomplished right now than either Hoag or Koteas were in 1990. If Amell was Amell and Fox was Fox in 1990, TMNT 1990 would have been lucky to grab them.

[Powder]

Nobody's arguing that. The fact that what you're saying is true & they can't even give passable performances in those roles is pretty telling to what caliber of "actor" they are.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Powder

Nobody's arguing that. The fact that what you're saying is true & they can't even give passable performances in those roles is pretty telling to what caliber of "actor" they are.

That's more indicative of the material. And direction, or lack thereof. If this latest puppet director was even doing any actual directing.

[Powder]

C'mon, man. I'd be the last guy to argue in favor of the film's script. It's terrible stuff. But actors can give their all (or at least do a sufficient job) even with bad material, bad directors, etc. These two just blow, period. When Fox isn't applying the porn star style to her delivery, it's just stale & unconvincing. & Amell is equally flat. Even fantastic directors can't make bad actors good, they just try to mask their weaknesses & give them a lower profile.

[Leolead]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

That's more indicative of the material. And direction, or lack thereof. If this latest puppet director was even doing any actual directing.

They come off the same way in other roles they've been in. Sure, the director was essentially just a Bay puppet but there's no beating around the bush that Fox & Amell were miscast as April & Casey & just bland, wooden actors in general.

Originally Posted by Bry

It doesn't help that the biggest "other" live-action versions were played by legitimately terrific actors in Judith Hoag and Elias Koteas, who absolutely nailed the roles. For the fans, at least, it'd take a lot to match them.

You might say... this cast is living in their shadows.

Haha, pretty much. They were perfectly cast and were great in their roles.

[Allio]

only way I would want a third film is if it was a real "Turtles in time" with Savanti Romero with the time sceptor.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Leolead

They come off the same way in other roles they've been in.

Nah. Have never watched Arrow but I know he's greenlit 5 seasons of it. And Jennifer's Body was pretty damn awesome with Fox.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Technically both Fox and Amell are way more accomplished right now than either Hoag or Koteas were in 1990. If Amell was Amell and Fox was Fox in 1990, TMNT 1990 would have been lucky to grab them.

And yet Hoag and Koteas both gave far, far better performances in 1990 than Fox and Amell could pull off in 2016. Almost like they had way more actual talent, regardless of how supposedly not "accomplished" they were!