12-10-2017, 10:39 AM | #21 |
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80s/90s all the waaayyyyyy.
There is just something very special about the 80s setting in turtles which makes it work. Its one of the reason why tmnt (1990) worked so well, it took full advantage of its setting. |
12-10-2017, 11:02 AM | #22 |
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I'm down if it's oldie style like Stranger Things.
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12-10-2017, 11:20 AM | #23 |
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Can't it be set during the 1970's or something?
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12-10-2017, 09:26 PM | #24 |
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I’ve always stood by New York in the 80’s/90’s being the definitive time setting of TMNT. No other era has proven to work better for the turtles than this. Steve Barron’s 1990 portrayal continues to solidify this point to this day. In that film we got to see the turtles live and breathe in an era of New York that most people will unfortunately never fully understand/know about anymore. Just thinking about it reminds me of all the old New York hardcore/punk rock and old school hip hop scenes that were so indicative of that age. I miss it a lot because it’s something I grew up on. Watch all those old NYHC/hip hop documentaries; you’ll know what I’m talking about. It’s really sad to see all that history/culture swept away due to things like gentrification and systemic political issues. It’s even a lot more sad to see rich out of towners and hipsters moving into NY, gentrifying the whole damn block/culture and moving people who were born and raised there that have called it HOME their whole lives out to other places. It’s hard to think of TMNT in a modern gentrified New York without making me sick to my stomach. It just doesn’t feel genuine. I don’t care much for this forum anymore, but this thread was worth finding and posting to.
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12-10-2017, 09:58 PM | #25 |
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The reasons to ground the Turtles in the 80s or even 90s aren't compelling enough to do so and would only come at the risk of alienating today's youths. Fun though it might be to see various bits of 80s/90s pop culture stuff for you or I in it.
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12-11-2017, 12:06 AM | #26 | |
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I'd so love to see a movie made for US, that would somehow surprise the public at large and end up being the sleeper hit of that year.
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12-11-2017, 12:53 AM | #27 |
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But there is nothing intrinsically 80s or 90s about the TMNT, even in Mirage. What is the benefit of making a new movie in either era vs. now? Do we just really not want to see April whip out a cell phone? Or the Turtles having a tube TV in the lair instead of an LED screen? What's the real benefit, beyond "I'm a super old fan and those are the years most important to me"? If anything, the Turtles and Splinter having internet access helps address things that otherwise didn't make sense before. I mean, they're just a few YouTube videos away from learning how to forge their own weapons... but before? Ehh....
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12-11-2017, 02:18 AM | #28 |
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Totally unnecessary. If anything, the themes and characters become more relevant, and the conflict deepens as society advances. Taking them back to the 80s serves no purpose other than to pander to fans.
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12-12-2017, 11:05 AM | #29 |
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I've always thought about this. I feel TMNT has a strong connection to the 80's/90's era, and not just in a nostalgic sense. A modern setting doesn't necessarily mean that it will have a better connection or be more relatable to the current audience.
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12-12-2017, 11:55 AM | #30 |
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What about the TMNT is inherently late 80s/early 90s? I don't see anything holding them to that era
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12-12-2017, 01:09 PM | #32 |
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Nothing. Zero. Just fanboys and fangirls anchoring it to those eras mentally because it reminds them of their childhoods so why wouldn't the TMNT be stuck in those eras.
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12-12-2017, 01:17 PM | #33 |
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The more technology the more difficult it is to believe a vigilante can operate. Granted I don't think that's a huge problem with TMNT but it does affect some heroes like Batman.
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12-12-2017, 01:23 PM | #34 |
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They're not vigilantes.
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12-12-2017, 01:46 PM | #36 |
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12-12-2017, 02:16 PM | #37 |
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They don't fight crime. They're not, like, walking around patrolling for burglars to protect mankind. Any why would they?
Casey, there's a vigilante.
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12-12-2017, 02:42 PM | #38 |
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Well to be fair in most incarnations they more or less take the law into their own hands.
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12-12-2017, 02:45 PM | #39 |
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In the kids stuff they fight a lot of crime, sure. For no reason.
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I didn't consider the 80s turtles vigilantes so much as just going out to stop Shredder as their main enemy. But then you have episodes like the ones I just mentioned....
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