No reboot would have been better...

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Okay, looking back on the joke that was the platinum Dunes movies, I wonder if they shouldn't have done a movie like the IMAGI TMNT film; one that started from a point that could've been after the TMNT films already met. Not a direct sequel to the original films, but one starting with the Shredder's return after his last death/defeat, then introducing all the characters people wanted to see, like Bebop and rocksteady. Get the OT movie people want out of the way, then take it down to the gritty level people some fans wanted.Should have gone this route, instead of another reboot?

[neatoman]

Mmmmm, batter....

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

Get the OT movie people want out of the way

Well thankfully they've already done that... torpedoing it in the process. Also thankfully.

I guess in hindsight I'm kind of really OK with what the PD films did. It put everything that's... not good about TMNT at large into a great big barrel of suck, then dropped it into the ocean.

We can't know what kind of TMNT movie will emerge next, but we do know it won't be like the PD movies.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Well thankfully they've already done that... torpedoing it in the process. Also thankfully.

I guess in hindsight I'm kind of really OK with what the PD films did. It put everything that's... not good about TMNT at large into a great big barrel of suck, then dropped it into the ocean.

We can't know what kind of TMNT movie will emerge next, but we do know it won't be like the PD movies.

I agree. It's like swallowing something really nasty and forcing yourself to puke it up. It's over and for the better now. Hopefully studio exec's took notice.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

I agree. It's like swallowing something really nasty and forcing yourself to puke it up. It's over and for the better now. Hopefully studio exec's took notice.

Oh, they should. If there's one thing they understand it's a good, hard hit to their wallet.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Mmmmm, batter....
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...f50413656e.jpg

Glad you like batter, but that has nothing to do what I was talking about. Now, what about the post itself?

(grr, I HATE making a post when I'm being rushed in real life...)

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Well thankfully they've already done that... torpedoing it in the process. Also thankfully.

I guess in hindsight I'm kind of really OK with what the PD films did. It put everything that's... not good about TMNT at large into a great big barrel of suck, then dropped it into the ocean.

We can't know what kind of TMNT movie will emerge next, but we do know it won't be like the PD movies.

Yeah, this is kindna what needed to be done. Those characters HAD to make it to the big screen, before anything else could be tried. I say that an OT-based film HAD to be made, to get those characters out of the way, before anything new could be tried. I just wonder if would've been better to do it in a one-and done film, but that's hindsight for ya...

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

Glad you like batter, but that has nothing to do what I was talking about. Now, what about the post itself?

(grr, I HATE making a post when I'm being rushed in real life...)

My actual opinion is more less what Andrew came with. The FW movie more or less already came in the form of OotS and it bombed, hopefully leading to a much better movie in the future or at least a different kind of movie.

[d_osborn]

The huge bummer is that things were looking so positive with the John Fusco project, which took inspiration from the successes of Nolan's Batman Begins.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by d_osborn

The huge bummer is that things were looking so positive with the John Fusco project, which took inspiration from the successes of Nolan's Batman Begins.

I'd really, really love to read that one.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Originally Posted by d_osborn

The huge bummer is that things were looking so positive with the John Fusco project, which took inspiration from the successes of Nolan's Batman Begins.

Oh, how I wish the John Fusco film could be done as a reboot now...

[pferreira]

Originally Posted by neatoman

My actual opinion is more less what Andrew came with. The FW movie more or less already came in the form of OotS and it bombed, hopefully leading to a much better movie in the future or at least a different kind of movie.

OotS was NOT a FW movie. Sure it featured characters from the TV series but it was NOTHING like the 80s series.

[plastroncafe]

I don't know that No Reboot would have been better.

If we want Hollywood to expand and explore other ideas, we have to give them room to fail...or otherwise not get it right sometimes.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I don't know that No Reboot would have been better.

If we want Hollywood to expand and explore other ideas, we have to give them room to fail...or otherwise not get it right sometimes.

Fair point.

If Batman & Robin hadn't failed, we wouldn't have gotten the Dark Knight Trilogy; if the Dark Knight Trilogy hadn't succeeded, (maybe) no Man of Steel or Batman V Superman...

You win some, you lose some.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Oh, they should. If there's one thing they understand it's a good, hard hit to their wallet.

This.

Like you mentioned too ... one of the biggest positives from this current movie franchise's failure is that it will allow a necessary back to the drawing board.

Hopefully the franchise just lands with a writing and directing team that will see these characters as something much more than a means to easy catch.

I may not always like every Marvel movie ... but they're doing it right.

[snake]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Fair point.

If Batman & Robin hadn't failed, we wouldn't have gotten the Dark Knight Trilogy; if the Dark Knight Trilogy hadn't succeeded, (maybe) no Man of Steel or Batman V Superman...

You win some, you lose some.

If Superman 4 hadn't failed, we wouldn't have gotten, uh, Superman Returns? And if that hadn't failed, we wouldn't have gotten....Man of Steel?

Superman really is not the best example here.

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by pferreira

OotS was NOT a FW movie. Sure it featured characters from the TV series but it was NOTHING like the 80s series.

Yup. But people will see what they want to see

[plastroncafe]

PD TMNT : TMNT :: Bay's Transformer : Transformers

Let's age this up, make everything EXTREME, and explody, for today's edgy sensibilities.

So yeah, it's a FW knockoff.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by pferreira

OotS was NOT a FW movie. Sure it featured characters from the TV series but it was NOTHING like the 80s series.

In which way is it nothing like the original series? It has:

*Shredder and Krang teaming up
*The Technodrome arriving to Earth through a portal
*Shredder mutating Bebop and Rocksteady

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

In which way is it nothing like the original series? It has:

*Shredder and Krang teaming up
*The Technodrome arriving to Earth through a portal
*Shredder mutating Bebop and Rocksteady

*TMNT crazy about pizza.
*Lots of sight gags and slapstick humor
*April reporting stuff as a reporter.
*A pizza thrower (basically).
*Turtles only using their weapons on robot stuff.

On and on.

A dick joke in this middle doesn't yank it out of the Fred Wolf Zone™.