Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by sdp

Unpopular opinion in online communities because you get hardcore American turtle fans but the Archie comic is niche even in the US

That's not an unpopular opinion, that's just plain factually incorrect. At its height the Archie series was selling nearly 200,000 copies a month. IDW and even Mirage are "niche" compared to the success and audience TMNTA had.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

That's not an unpopular opinion, that's just plain factually incorrect. At its height the Archie series was selling nearly 200,000 copies a month. IDW and even Mirage are "niche" compared to the success and audience TMNTA had.

Still, I don't think that War and Wingnut are the most popular or known characters from it.

Originally Posted by sdp

Unpopular opinion in online communities because you get hardcore American turtle fans but the Archie comic is niche even in the US, besides that I think the comic only released in a few other countries, Canada, Mexico, UK. And I'm guessing it was even more niche in those other countries.

Part of the series was published in Russia either as separate magazine and some issues were included in other publication, like some video game magazines.
Though I don't think it was legal.

[CyberCubed]

I actually liked the more unique roster in the Tournament Fighters games, it felt like they were trying to do something different. I was introduced to Armaggon via the game before I read the Archie comics he was in, and I thought it was cool there was a shark mutant I had never seen before.

In the NES version I knew who Hothead was due to the Playmates toy, so that was fine. Genesis had Man Ray, a Triceraton, Karai, etc...so it was a nice mix of characters we don't usually get. Also Chrome Dome was only ever in Tournament Fighters, he was never a boss in any of the classic games so it was the first time he was in a videogame.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

That's not an unpopular opinion, that's just plain factually incorrect. At its height the Archie series was selling nearly 200,000 copies a month. IDW and even Mirage are "niche" compared to the success and audience TMNTA had.

That Archie series first 12 issues went to multiple printings - sometimes up to 8th printing. That's basically more newsstand reprints than any other title in history.

Must have been a "Niche" book.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I actually liked the more unique roster in the Tournament Fighters games, it felt like they were trying to do something different.

If we had more TMNT fighting games, I wouldn't had anything against obscure characters, but when you have only 3 games, locked on different platforms, I'd prefer to have more popular faces first and everyone else later.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Off-topic a bit, but that Toxic Crusaders game isn't even trying to hide anymore how much of a copy of Shredder's Revenge it is haha.

[Chaotix12345]

Yuki Matsuzaki will be reprising Usagi in Shredder's Revenge! (After previously playing him in the 2012 show as well as Samurai Rabbit on Netflix.)

Was hoping he'd be on board for this. Really neat how he's kind of become the "official" voice for Usagi.

[Tuxedo Moroboshi]

Originally Posted by Sumac

At least they brought OG Karai into a spotlight, before she was infantilized into Shredder's daughter.

As much as I didn't mind it when it was first done in the 2003 cartoon, I do continue to be annoyed that this is forever what the character is and likely will always be in every succeeding iteration of the franchise ever.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by sdp

200,000 at its peak? And how many kids liked TMNT at its peak? The NES games alone sold millions. Yeah, I'd call that a niche. Most kids didn't know what Archie TMNT was.

It's not a mark against TMNTA that you didn't have any friends.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Tuxedo Moroboshi

As much as I didn't mind it when it was first done in the 2003 cartoon, I do continue to be annoyed that this is forever what the character is and likely will always be in every succeeding iteration of the franchise ever.

I didn't mind it either, but, yeah, after TMNT 2007 it became obvious that is now who Karai is. 2k12 and IDW made things only worse, so yeah.
I bet, if someone will bring OG Karai back some idiots gonna whine that "this is not a true Karai - she should be a teenager and Shredder's daughter / subordinate".
Bleh.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by IMJ

I didn't know that Ninja Turtles "furries" comics were made.... OMG wtf?

Started May 5, 1984. Where have you been?

[Tuxedo Moroboshi]

Originally Posted by Ninjinister

Started May 5, 1984. Where have you been?

I do think there's a clear distinction between something that gives off furry vibes, and simply having a humanoid animal, personally. Particularly since the Mirage series only ever had the 4 turtles and Splinter (and later Leatherhead), while the Archie series had mutants (most of them people that take on animal qualities, rather than just animals that got mutated) pretty much out the wazoo, and also clearly drawn a very different way than the way the brothers, Splinter, and Leatherhead were drawn in Mirage. Maaaaaybe this is just my own interpretation, but I always felt like those characters were more like "creatures" in Mirage, while in Archie they do give off more powerful furry vibes. Same with IDW, particularly with Mutant Town.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Ninjinister

Started May 5, 1984. Where have you been?

You're actually right. I don't know what came over me...

Originally Posted by Tuxedo Moroboshi

I do think there's a clear distinction between something that gives off furry vibes, and simply having a humanoid animal, personally. Particularly since the Mirage series only ever had the 4 turtles and Splinter (and later Leatherhead), while the Archie series had mutants (most of them people that take on animal qualities, rather than just animals that got mutated) pretty much out the wazoo, and also clearly drawn a very different way than the way the brothers, Splinter, and Leatherhead were drawn in Mirage. Maaaaaybe this is just my own interpretation, but I always felt like those characters were more like "creatures" in Mirage, while in Archie they do give off more powerful furry vibes. Same with IDW, particularly with Mutant Town.

Pretty sure his post was actually sardonic social commentary.

[Tuxedo Moroboshi]

Originally Posted by IMJ

Pretty sure his post was actually sardonic social commentary.

Oh, I do get that it was just a joke. That comment just sparked a train of thought in my brain and I have a tendency to over-analyze everything... and then just sorta think out loud. Sorry, I didn't mean to annoy.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Tuxedo Moroboshi

Oh, I do get that it was just a joke. That comment just sparked a train of thought in my brain and I have a tendency to over-analyze everything... and then just sorta think out loud. Sorry, I didn't mean to annoy.

No, no, you didn't annoy at all... Not at all.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Cool to see different colored skins based on other TMNT cartoon series.

[Chaotix12345]

You just KNOW that TMNT games have gotten NUTS when even the freaking UNCANNY TRIO score cameos in the new DLC.



Love how Leo's Rise-based colorswap even includes his little red-eared slider marks. Great attention to detail.

I also spy Pizzaface, Hothead, Kerma, Cudley, a Mirage-or-2k3-style Fugitoid fleeing ARMAGGON in deep space (which is a Nick reference, so great touch), and 2k3-style colorswaps for April, Casey, and Splinter. They definitely littered this DLC with unabashed fanservice. Also looking forward to seeing if there's any kind of big reward for maxing out the crystal progression.

[CyberCubed]

So it is indeed just single screen survival mode, and no new stages as expected. Somewhat disappointing, but I hope it's not expensive. If this is $19.99 or more I'll probably wait on it. I'd get it for $9.99 though.

[Chaotix12345]

I imagine it'll probably have equivalent pricing to Streets of Rage 4's Mr. X Nightmare. (Which was $7.99.) REALLY don't see it costing almost as much as the base game's $24.99.

[CyberCubed]

I do hope its cheap, Usagi licensing cost may add up though.