How many issues do you think IDW Tmnt will reach?

*myconius* · 03-21-2018, 06:45 PM

this is a topic that has been discussed time and time again.
but as sale numbers continue to diminish, i can’t help but wonder how long the series will continue on for?

so, questions.

-how many issues do you think the main IDW Ongoing Tmnt comic will last?

-how many issues do you think Tmnt: Universe will last?

-do you feel the companion Tmnt: Universe has helped the main series thrive, or has it pushed readers away?

-do you buy both Tmnt as well as Tmnt: Universe?

-if so what format(s) do you buy? (single issues, TPB, Deluxe HC, digital singles, digital TPB, etc...)

discuss...

*CyberCubed* · 03-21-2018, 07:51 PM

The main series is already planned out to at least issue 100. It'll probably still continue on beyond that, but who knows how long it'll go. Maybe 120-150 issues? Who knows. That's too far in the future to think about now.

TMNT Universe might continue to at least 30 issues, but it'll probably be replaced by mini's and specials so it won't really matter.

As for your other questions I buy the trades now but now I have to sell those to switch over to the new hardcover collections.

*Utrommaniac* · 03-21-2018, 07:57 PM

From what's been set up on the Dragon Lord, I very much think it could go to at least 175.

He's been kicking around for a long time, even as early as Secret History of the Foot Clan, when the turtles assumed Saki was the Dragon Lord presently. And with the warning that he's basically "unkillable", I can see #100 as his grand entrance, with maybe two or three issues beforehand leading up to it.

*myconius* · 03-21-2018, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Utrommaniac

From what's been set up on the Dragon Lord, I very much think it could go to at least 175.

He's been kicking around for a long time, even as early as Secret History of the Foot Clan, when the turtles assumed Saki was the Dragon Lord presently. And with the warning that he's basically "unkillable", I can see #100 as his grand entrance, with maybe two or three issues beforehand leading up to it.

realistically, i just can't image the series lasting to 175.

i'd be VERY surprised if it actually makes it to 150 the way things have been going.

to be perfectly honest, i think many of the characters and plot points that have been introduced a while ago should have LONG since been dealt with.

look at the FCBD issue from May 2017.
that painful exposition running through ALL of the plot threads that were (and are STILL) going on in the main series have barely even been touched upon.
i think one of the series biggest problems (beside lack of Turtles) has been that the plot really doesn't feel like it's progressing.

the series has been stuck in neutral for quite a while.

*myconius* · 03-21-2018, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The main series is already planned out to at least issue 100. It'll probably still continue on beyond that, but who knows how long it'll go. Maybe 120-150 issues? Who knows. That's too far in the future to think about now.

TMNT Universe might continue to at least 30 issues, but it'll probably be replaced by mini's and specials so it won't really matter.

As for your other questions I buy the trades now but now I have to sell those to switch over to the new hardcover collections.

those sound like fair estimations.

around 30 for Tmnt Universe.

about 120 for the main series. not sure if it'll actually last to 150.

i've been buying all singles, trades, as well as the deluxe hardcovers.

but i'm strongly considering to stop buying the singles. something i thought i'd never do.
i used to not mind it as much before, but i'm honestly just not loving the series like i used to and now see the single issues as space eaters.

and what to do with the singles? keep em? sell em? donate them?

*CyberCubed* · 03-21-2018, 08:10 PM

When I bought trades I just sold all the single issues on one huge lot on ebay. From what I remember I sold everything prior to issue 50 at the time, and made around $70ish in sales off it.

Then I bought all the 4 issue TPB's. Now I'm thinking about selling all those off to replace them with the new hardcover collections. Every time IDW re-releases the series I have to sell off the previous releases for the new ones.

*myconius* · 03-21-2018, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

When I bought trades I just sold all the single issues on one huge lot on ebay. From what I remember I sold everything prior to issue 50 at the time, and made around $70ish in sales off it.

Then I bought all the 4 issue TPB's. Now I'm thinking about selling all those off to replace them with the new hardcover collections. Every time IDW re-releases the series I have to sell off the previous releases for the new ones.

wow! 1-50 for $70???

was that also including the minis and micro series?

hahaha! yeah i can see the trades as quickly becoming space eaters too, now that you put it that way!

*CyberCubed* · 03-21-2018, 08:21 PM

Yeah including all those micros at the time. Keep in mind I sold them back in...I don't remember 2016 or so? When did issue 50 come out? It was somewhere around then.

There's no reason to keep two copies of the same things, once I decided to get the trades I knew I was going to sell the single issues. It's also easier to re-read the series in books then single comics for obvious reasons.

*TurtleWA* · 03-21-2018, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by myconius

those sound like fair estimations.

around 30 for Tmnt Universe.

about 120 for the main series. not sure if it'll actually last to 150.

i've been buying all singles, trades, as well as the deluxe hardcovers.

but i'm strongly considering to stop buying the singles. something i thought i'd never do.
i used to not mind it as much before, but i'm honestly just not loving the series like i used to and now see the single issues as space eaters.

and what to do with the singles? keep em? sell em? donate them?

If you decide to sell the singles it might be cool to give dromers looking for certain issues first shot.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

When I bought trades I just sold all the single issues on one huge lot on ebay. From what I remember I sold everything prior to issue 50 at the time, and made around $70ish in sales off it.

Then I bought all the 4 issue TPB's. Now I'm thinking about selling all those off to replace them with the new hardcover collections. Every time IDW re-releases the series I have to sell off the previous releases for the new ones.

I always thought you bought the singles. Seems like you know the latest plot details day of release. Do you buy the singles on mini-series?

*Sabacooza* · 03-22-2018, 06:30 AM

TMNT could also be in a slump because there's no show to promote it. Once that show is on the air whether we like the direction or not, It might reinvigorate the comics.

*Utrommaniac* · 03-22-2018, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabacooza

TMNT could also be in a slump because there's no show to promote it. Once that show is on the air whether we like the direction or not, It might reinvigorate the comics.

Huh...that's a pretty good observation. It probably isn't a coincidence that the numbers are low while it's between shows, but then again...

*TurtleWA* · 03-22-2018, 09:50 AM

Maybe when the new TV series begins a slight increase will happen. But more likely those watching the show will buy the current mini or crossover. Or the show will get it’s own mini and that will be what the fans pickup.

It’s hard to imagine the target audience for the show will want the ongoing. Hopefully I’m wrong and the ongoing starts increasing every month with the excitement of a new TV series. However it seems like the TV fans will want toys more than comics.

*myconius* · 03-22-2018, 09:59 AM

yeah, i really can't imagine a kiddie cartoon about mystical Ninja Turtles drawing in new readers into a non related comic series.

a comic series that has about six years worth of continuity from well over 150 back issues to catch up on.

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Originally Posted by TurtleWA

However it seems like the TV fans will want toys more than comics.

you hit the nail on the head with that one!

~~AquaParade~~ · 03-22-2018, 11:47 AM

I personally would like to see a fresh voice on the book. As much as I appreciate the great job Tom Waltz has done, the respect he has for the franchise, and his brave, successful spin on the origin, the style of storytelling just doesn't grab me at all, and it's hard for me to make it through an issue. Maybe it's the dialogue, maybe it's the pacing, or possibly the characterization of the turtles. It's hard to say.

I do really appreciate how fun and surprising the first five issues were. I also enjoy Secret History of the Foot. I'm glad the book has been as successful as it has. I'd love to see it continue, but hopefully with a fresh voice or mantra.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-22-2018, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabacooza

TMNT could also be in a slump because there's no show to promote it. Once that show is on the air whether we like the direction or not, It might reinvigorate the comics.

I think the correlation between having a little kids' TMNT cartoon on the air, not having a little kids' TMNT cartoon on the air, and IDW TMNT sales is somewhere between "almost no effect at all" and "no effect whatsoever."

Unless the toy stuff has, like, vouchers or coupons or order forms to order IDW TMNT, there really is no impetus for little kids to seek out comics they don't know exist that bare little to no resemblance to the show they're watching (particularly within the increasingly dwindled number of actual comic book stores out there they could even possibly stumble upon).

*myconius* · 03-22-2018, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I think the correlation between having a little kids' TMNT cartoon on the air, not having a little kids' TMNT cartoon on the air, and IDW TMNT sales is somewhere between "almost no effect at all" and "no effect whatsoever."

Unless the toy stuff has, like, vouchers or coupons or order forms to order IDW TMNT, there really is no impetus for little kids to seek out comics they don't know exist that bare little to no resemblance to the show they're watching (particularly within the increasingly dwindled number of actual comic book stores out there they could even possibly stumble upon).

this was pretty much my thoughts as well.

i can see a live action movie geared towards teens and adults possibly getting people into comic stores. but definitely not a kiddie cartoon.

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

I personally would like to see a fresh voice on the book. As much as I appreciate the great job Tom Waltz has done, the respect he has for the franchise, and his brave, successful spin on the origin, the style of storytelling just doesn't grab me at all, and it's hard for me to make it through an issue. Maybe it's the dialogue, maybe it's the pacing, or possibly the characterization of the turtles. It's hard to say.

I do really appreciate how fun and surprising the first five issues were. I also enjoy Secret History of the Foot. I'm glad the book has been as successful as it has. I'd love to see it continue, but hopefully with a fresh voice or mantra.

i think i might be starting to feel the same way as you about the storytelling.
it's a very dialog driven comic, with little to no action. when action does happen, it's usually over before it really begins.
i didn't mind so much for the early arcs because there was usually some pay off or satisfying conclusion right away. but now that most of the plot threads feel like they are really dragging out it's hard to get excited for the new issues.

i also think the story focusing on so many new characters, and the Turtles taking backseat in their own comic is not a very good thing.

so many different things going on the overall direction of plot is getting convoluted.

*TurtleWA* · 03-22-2018, 01:44 PM

Do people in charge have faith that drastic shakeups would result in monthly increases rather than an even faster decrease? At least if they stay the course it’s more certain sales would stay with the current trends. I’m reminded of the phrase that goes something like “better the devil you know than the devil you don't.” Or for all we know an exit or change with everything is already planned/plotted and we are wasting our words.

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Utrommaniac Resident overthinker Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: what is going on.......... Posts: 5,318	From what's been set up on the Dragon Lord, I very much think it could go to at least 175. He's been kicking around for a long time, even as early as Secret History of the Foot Clan, when the turtles assumed Saki was the Dragon Lord presently. And with the warning that he's basically "unkillable", I can see #100 as his grand entrance, with maybe two or three issues beforehand leading up to it. __________________ DeviantART

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TurtleWA Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: WA Posts: 2,507	Maybe when the new TV series begins a slight increase will happen. But more likely those watching the show will buy the current mini or crossover. Or the show will get it’s own mini and that will be what the fans pickup. It’s hard to imagine the target audience for the show will want the ongoing. Hopefully I’m wrong and the ongoing starts increasing every month with the excitement of a new TV series. However it seems like the TV fans will want toys more than comics. Last edited by TurtleWA; 03-22-2018 at 10:23 AM.

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03-21-2018, 06:45 PM	#1
myconius Abby Normal Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: the grave marked "Unknown" right beside Arch Stanton. Posts: 2,857	How many issues do you think IDW Tmnt will reach? this is a topic that has been discussed time and time again. but as sale numbers continue to diminish, i can’t help but wonder how long the series will continue on for? so, questions. -how many issues do you think the main IDW Ongoing Tmnt comic will last? -how many issues do you think Tmnt: Universe will last? -do you feel the companion Tmnt: Universe has helped the main series thrive, or has it pushed readers away? -do you buy both Tmnt as well as Tmnt: Universe? -if so what format(s) do you buy? (single issues, TPB, Deluxe HC, digital singles, digital TPB, etc...) discuss... __________________

03-21-2018, 07:51 PM	#2
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,026	The main series is already planned out to at least issue 100. It'll probably still continue on beyond that, but who knows how long it'll go. Maybe 120-150 issues? Who knows. That's too far in the future to think about now. TMNT Universe might continue to at least 30 issues, but it'll probably be replaced by mini's and specials so it won't really matter. As for your other questions I buy the trades now but now I have to sell those to switch over to the new hardcover collections.

03-21-2018, 08:10 PM	#6
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,026	When I bought trades I just sold all the single issues on one huge lot on ebay. From what I remember I sold everything prior to issue 50 at the time, and made around $70ish in sales off it. Then I bought all the 4 issue TPB's. Now I'm thinking about selling all those off to replace them with the new hardcover collections. Every time IDW re-releases the series I have to sell off the previous releases for the new ones.

03-21-2018, 08:21 PM	#8
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,026	Yeah including all those micros at the time. Keep in mind I sold them back in...I don't remember 2016 or so? When did issue 50 come out? It was somewhere around then. There's no reason to keep two copies of the same things, once I decided to get the trades I knew I was going to sell the single issues. It's also easier to re-read the series in books then single comics for obvious reasons.

03-22-2018, 06:30 AM	#10
Sabacooza Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,986	TMNT could also be in a slump because there's no show to promote it. Once that show is on the air whether we like the direction or not, It might reinvigorate the comics.

03-22-2018, 11:47 AM	#14
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	I personally would like to see a fresh voice on the book. As much as I appreciate the great job Tom Waltz has done, the respect he has for the franchise, and his brave, successful spin on the origin, the style of storytelling just doesn't grab me at all, and it's hard for me to make it through an issue. Maybe it's the dialogue, maybe it's the pacing, or possibly the characterization of the turtles. It's hard to say. I do really appreciate how fun and surprising the first five issues were. I also enjoy Secret History of the Foot. I'm glad the book has been as successful as it has. I'd love to see it continue, but hopefully with a fresh voice or mantra.

03-22-2018, 01:44 PM	#17
TurtleWA Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: WA Posts: 2,507	Do people in charge have faith that drastic shakeups would result in monthly increases rather than an even faster decrease? At least if they stay the course it’s more certain sales would stay with the current trends. I’m reminded of the phrase that goes something like “better the devil you know than the devil you don't.” Or for all we know an exit or change with everything is already planned/plotted and we are wasting our words.