09-10-2006, 12:24 PM | #1 |
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Ninja Tribunal season - 13 episodes vs. Fast Forward - 26 episode
I was wondering. The Producers decided to cancel the ninja tribunal story and change the whole concept. The result was Fast forward. What I've heard and read is that they decided to finish the NT story but not air it. I can understand that but why was the 5th season originally going to be just 13 episodes? Is it beacuse they ratings were poor and they only wanted to produce half a season or did they originally intend on having the 5th season 26 episodes? the reason i'm asking is because i find it strange they'd cancel a great 13 episode season and instead produce a 26 episode season. does any one know?
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09-10-2006, 01:15 PM | #2 |
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I believe that Season 5 was going to be 13 episodes from the start. I remember reading an article during Season 3 where it said that Turtles was produced for 117 episodes, so season 5 seemed to be 13 episodes from the start.
Fast Forward isn't completely new either because I just bought the Season 4 DVD set today and there is an allusion to this direction in "Samurai Tourist." When Gen is leaving, he talks about wanting to visit Las Vegas, and Donatello says, "Maybe in a hundred years or so," and this is queued with that "quirky" TMNT sound (the one thye play when they try to emphasize a joke).
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09-10-2006, 01:32 PM | #3 |
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heh, thats interesting
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09-10-2006, 08:27 PM | #4 | |
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09-11-2006, 08:08 AM | #5 |
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but why only 13 episodes if they decided from the beginning?
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09-11-2006, 10:18 AM | #6 | |
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09-12-2006, 12:25 PM | #7 |
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Do you think they decided on the whole story from the beginning. While producing season one, they knew they were going to end the series on the Ninja Tribunal/origina Shredder story?? Or did they decide on bringing back the original Shredder in sesaon 4 because the utrom Shredder proved unpopular with fans? I'm just very curious to know if this ninja tribunal story was something they came up with in late production or if they always planned on doing this story. What do you think.
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09-12-2006, 03:11 PM | #8 |
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Personally I think they came up with the idea when they were writing the end episodes of Season 3. They were getting rid of Shredder and wanted a new way to bring him back without cheating death for the 10th time. So they came up with the "real" Shredder and worked the build up into Season 4 (the only season with no Shredder) so his "return" would be a big deal in Season 5.
Plus it was around the end of Season 3 that the Playmates press release said 117 episodes were planned and in production, and just before the talk of a "new direction". I don't think it was as early as Season 1 as I doubt they were even thinking about reaching Season 5 at that point as they had no idea how well the new series would be recieved and didn't even know for sure they'd get a Season 2! |
09-12-2006, 03:36 PM | #9 |
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Personally, I really liked the Utrom-Shredder concept and thought it was a good idea. It made so much sense having shredder turn out to be a utrom and made the turtles/mutation-plot interesting. I can't understand why so many people hated the idea of Shredder being an Utrom. Actually if anything, the original Shredder/magical Tengu idea kind of rips off the whole Utrom-Shredder plot, making it look like the fight with Shredder and TMNT was just a waste of time...
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09-12-2006, 08:11 PM | #12 |
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Even though untrom shredder wasn't the original shredder, he was still the shredder. The title of "the shredder" seems to be a seperate entity in itselfs. Represents true evil. Whether its an evil utrom or a man 1700 years ago, they still carried out the name of the shredder and terriozed the land.The orignal might be the most powerful, but the utrom shredder still kicked the turtles butts when he was around and was a major threat. Karia now tries to carry on the title.' The shredder" will always seem to live on.
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09-13-2006, 09:45 AM | #13 | |
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Here is the link to the story showing that the Ninja Tribunal storyline was incorporated from the start:
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09-13-2006, 10:36 AM | #14 |
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I'm glad that they decided to get to the point on the Ninja Tribunal storyline. We don't have to go through some crappy or rough filler stories. So we can get to the epicness when we see
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09-13-2006, 02:55 PM | #15 | |
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I do count her as a Shredder! Not "THE Shredder" like Oroku Saki, but certainly a worthy successor! I actually think Karai is more interesting as a villain as well because she's not outright evil, she started as the TMNT's ally and there's always that chance she might redeem herself before the series end! |
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09-14-2006, 05:16 PM | #16 | |
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A little while back, someone "in the know" posted about this in one of the Fast Forward episode discussion threads...
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09-16-2006, 08:34 PM | #17 |
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some say that the lost season will be even darker than the 4rth season. do you think they had finshed writing all the episodes for the lost season before the fast forward thing was decided or do you think they altered the skripts after, knowing it would be a DVD only season and they could get away with more?
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