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Old 09-27-2022, 09:15 AM   #1
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TMNT: The Armageddon Game #1 Preview and Discussion

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Old 09-27-2022, 11:25 AM   #2
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Thank God the art is good.
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Old 09-27-2022, 12:11 PM   #3
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I have a hard time with Jennika still. Not because she's a female (pains me that I have to clarify that), but just because it feels like such a forced way of having a token-female ninja turtle.

Not to make a stink of it. That's "just, like, my opinion, man."

Actually, I'm not even 100% sure why it doesn't jive with me. As a kid, I sort of liked Venus. I don't know if that's just changing perspective or if there is something specific about Jennika that doesn't work for me. Needs more thought.


I agree that the art looks pretty nice.
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Old 09-27-2022, 01:17 PM   #4
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Aqua, could it be because she's basically hijacking Alopex's role in the team and family dynamic?

Love the art and Karai/the Foot being relevant again.
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Old 09-27-2022, 01:23 PM   #5
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Aqua, could it be because she's basically hijacking Alopex's role in the team and family dynamic?

Love the art and Karai/the Foot being relevant again.
Alopex was cool, and I'd love to have her there instead, but I'm not sure that's why.

It seems like Jennika being a turtle doesn't serve any purpose that couldn't be served by her being human.
At least in terms of the story or character dynamics. I'll admit it can be fun to see art with five ninja turtles on it, and comics are a visual medium, so I won't act like that's for nothing.
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Old 09-27-2022, 01:35 PM   #6
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Glad to have the updates as always!
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Old 09-27-2022, 02:06 PM   #7
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Fun fact: this is also the 250th issue in the IDW chronology.
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Old 09-27-2022, 02:23 PM   #8
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I have a hard time with Jennika still. Not because she's a female (pains me that I have to clarify that), but just because it feels like such a forced way of having a token-female ninja turtle.

Not to make a stink of it. That's "just, like, my opinion, man."

Actually, I'm not even 100% sure why it doesn't jive with me. As a kid, I sort of liked Venus. I don't know if that's just changing perspective or if there is something specific about Jennika that doesn't work for me. Needs more thought.


I agree that the art looks pretty nice.
It's a weird thing to commentate here since she's barely in this preview and doesn't even say anything @.@
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Old 09-27-2022, 02:41 PM   #9
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It's a weird thing to commentate here since she's barely in this preview and doesn't even say anything @.@
She speaks at the bottom of the last page: 'Go easy with the Kuji-kiri. Copy that.'
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Old 09-27-2022, 04:37 PM   #10
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I have a hard time with Jennika still. Not because she's a female (pains me that I have to clarify that), but just because it feels like such a forced way of having a token-female ninja turtle.

Not to make a stink of it. That's "just, like, my opinion, man."

Actually, I'm not even 100% sure why it doesn't jive with me. As a kid, I sort of liked Venus. I don't know if that's just changing perspective or if there is something specific about Jennika that doesn't work for me. Needs more thought.


I agree that the art looks pretty nice.
Eh, hopefully they just use the Turnstone to get rid of her along with Mutant Town by the end of this story or something.
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Old 09-27-2022, 04:44 PM   #11
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This is a new artist? Seems to be a good fit, although the Turtles seem to be drawn slightly too tall. Better than the cutesy look they had in the main ongoing though for a long time.

Also it's kind of funny they consider Baxter a formidable foe, he's just a normal human, any one of them could bust into his mayor's office and just knock him out on the spot.
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Old 09-27-2022, 05:11 PM   #12
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Also it's kind of funny they consider Baxter a formidable foe, he's just a normal human, any one of them could bust into his mayor's office and just knock him out on the spot.
That and Karai knowing about Null (am I forgetting something?) took me out of the moment, but then again, consider what will happen IRL to anyone who tries or even succeeds in taking out the Mayor of NYC...
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Old 09-28-2022, 10:23 AM   #13
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It's like... Good and bad that the art on the Opening Moves and Armageddon Game proper has such good art and the main book doesn't, no offense to that person. Like it shows that this is a big event, bring your A Game to these books, but it also makes the main book feel like an afterthought.

I guess Jennika feels like an afterthought since she has no real personal stake in this or any previous interaction with the Rat King and such. At least Alopex has beef with both Shredder and Kitsune and it would be more interesting to see her having to be forced to trust them now.

Like is there any beef between Jennika and Karai seeing that Karai almost killed her and any mutant angst she's feeling is pretty much her fault?
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Old 09-28-2022, 10:32 AM   #14
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No, but there is clearly a beef between Karai and Kitsune, which further cements Jennika's status as an afterthought.
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Jenny and Karai dealt with their issues during the 'Tokka & Rahzar/ Battle of the Bands' arc.
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It's a weird thing to commentate here since she's barely in this preview and doesn't even say anything @.@
I don't think so. This is a comic preview featuring Jennika, so I brought up Jennika.

I think the reality is that it's just a touchy subject and people get weird about it.
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Jenny and Karai dealt with their issues during the 'Tokka & Rahzar/ Battle of the Bands' arc.
Sorry, I unironically forgot about that. You're right, of course.
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Old 09-28-2022, 05:27 PM   #19
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Wow, this was really good. Some actual plot! Really puts into perspective you can use the same exact characters but have a different writer handle them and it makes a world of difference.

I won't spoil anything but this was the best issue in a long time. I'm really excited for this arc now,
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Old 09-29-2022, 09:26 AM   #20
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Congratulations, Tom Waltz!

Glad you are back with a bang! Greatest issue since 100. Finally I can return to being a fan of TMNT - I have something to feed my appetite on!

As far as wokeness goes - Campbell's run on comics and Rise of TMNT on Nic, enough is enough!

In this issue so many of our favourite "pawns" are back into play, and not Rat King, but Waltz is the mastermind behind it. I've spend an hour reading and appreciating the beautiful art, especially April's face! I love waiting for the next issue and exited for "Aliance" by Burnham - he was amazing on Ghostbusters.

By the way, please continue the Ghostbusters series, get the rights to Jurassic Park and kill off Jennika in the 8th issue of Armageddon Game!

Another dream would be if you'd de-mutate all humans turned mutants, except for Bebop & Rocksteady, along the road!

Amazing work and huge thank you, Tom!
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