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I know it's been a long while, but the discussion in the following thread below has made me want to revive the topic at hand, at least the last two pages:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=58301 I'm going to quote myself on the thread, and expand upon my thoughts: Quote:
First up, as mentioned, I'd have the series be more grounded akin to Mirage and recent shows such as Daredevil. However, I'd also incorporate elements of sci-fi involving the Utroms and a little bit of fantasy. I'll get into the latter later, but I'd like for TMNT to have a little for everyone from action to drama and so on. Additionally, have the seasons build an overarching narrative(s) depending on what's being tackled. I figure at least five seasons between 20 to 26 episodes a season should be a good balance of episodes. Secondly, the characters to use. Personally speaking, I have no problem with mutants, they're needed to sell toys and may have a greater purchase rate than a human figure. However, I wouldn't use too many as to keep the mutant amount relatively small. Mutants I'd personally use aside from Leatherhead are Old Hob, Rat King, and possibly Groundchuck and Dirtbag (deserve some limelight). Additionally, I would use a few alien incarnations, perhaps as soldiers for Krang if he were to be used. They'd include Slash, Scale Tail, and the Dark Turtles. If contending with mysticism, using Dragon Lord and Vam Mi (depending on rights) would be a plus as well as the Patheneon. Lastly, the likes of Silver, Bishop, Null, Hun, and Simon Bonesteel for possible threats in addition to reoccurring villains in the Foot, Baxter, Rat King, and Triceratons. One major thing I should note is to give the rogues gallery more variety, as shown above. Besides using the above examples, it could also be beneficial to introduce some new characters that impact the franchise's lore. For example, maybe a biological son of Shredder (Pikimo instead maybe). The point being is like Next Mutation is to create a new roster of villains and possibly allies while also reintroducing some characters never before done/missing, as seen in IDW and Nick. Not withstanding the common adversaries (Shredder, Baxter, etc.), it allows a vast variety of all the departments, but I wouldn't go overboard in one category. Lastly, for the time being, is utilizing a little of everything. I mentioned an overarching narrative, with Spectacular Spider-Man being my main source as each episode used a villain for an episode and building the world. For example, the first three villains of the series were Vulture, Electro, and Lizard in a biology named arc. It built towards the Lizard with getting used to Dr. Connors while also gearing up future stories, such as Eddie Brock's descent beginning in the Lizard episode. I'll use the Foot as my example here. Say they were being introduced at the end of season 1. I'd say start with small time events like Old Hob and Leatherhead, but provide clues on the Foot's prominence. It can continuously lead into their first appearance. Same can be said about Krang or even Vam Mi depending on the season. These elements, alongside a coming of age story (maybe adapt parts of older stories), is how I'd book a TMNT series. It's very much a work in progress, but a foundation I have for the time being. If there's more to add, I'll be sure to post in the future.
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I'm happy you're doing this. Here's mine:
You know the story of how the turtles got mutated and Splinter rescues them in an old coffee can and gets mutated too. As for Hamato Yoshi & Oroku Saki, I see them going into an Obi-Wan & Anakin/Vader route. Yoshi & Saki were orphaned kids until found by the Ancient One. Yoshi & Saki are then joining the Guardians with Mortu, Bishop, Queen, Rook & Pawn. Yoshi was skilled. But Saki wanted more power and jealous when Yoshi got the attention from Tang Shen. Saki then joins the Foot clan, led by Ch'rell (formerly Knight) and his fellow scientist Krang who is the original Shredder back in the Sengoku period. He takes Saki under his wing so that he may pass on his title to him. Yoshi fought Saki while Mortu fought Ch'rell. Yoshi & Shen left for New York for a new life. Until Saki & Krang followed them so that Krang can steal Utrom information and for Saki to get his revenge as the Shredder. April gets rescued by the Turtles. The turtles fight Shredder in their first battle. Krang rescues him to patch him up and offers him four skilled mutant ninjas to combat the turtles and serve him. Bebop & Rocksteady can come in later. Hun joins Shredder as human. |
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Talk about wish fulfillment.
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I'd like to cast another vote for a pretty faithful IDW adaptation.
Pick a consistent art style, something relatively realistic and not caractureish like so many shows on TV nowadays. Maybe something nearly as detailed as Santolouco's but streamlined as necessary for animation. Use the opportunity to fix some of the rare instances of weird, clunky dialogue (the character's speech in IDW is usually pretty good, consistent with their character's personality and whatnot, but occasionally they'll use a word or make a reference that seems really dated or out-of-character)
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I suppose my ideal TMNT show would be something along the lines of the IDW comic. Pick and choose all the good stuff from all the incarnation. A nice action cartoon with a healthy dose of humor.
I guess I would go with a 2D cartoon, and I'd probably go with something close to Ben Bates' turtles when it comes to the visual style of the cartoon.
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07-19-2017, 05:36 AM | #70 |
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Give us a new series with 2003 vibe. But after all the wild mutations from 2012, it's too much.
Mutants: Shredder's Mutant Elite Guard - Koya, Shredder pet falcon - Rahzar (reincarnated as a hyena) - Chameleon, skilled in stealth using camouflage - Skunk, skilled in deception using its foul smell - Spider, uses spider-webs for traps Later the four can get an upgraded mutation. Wolf (rahzar), Poison Dart Frog (chameleon), wolverine (skunk) & Scorpion (spider). Bebop & Rocksteady could come in later. |
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I'm not sure what I would consider to be the ideal TMNT show. The FW and 4kids shows were pretty quintessential for me. I guess beyond that I would have loved to see the KidsWB series, had that ever come to fruition in the late 90's but alas...that was not the case..
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07-19-2017, 07:21 PM | #72 |
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Ideal is hard to nail down.
However, honestly IDW comic one is ideal. What i'd like to see is maybe the robot turtles. LOL batman beyond style. |
07-31-2017, 07:01 PM | #73 |
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So, it's been some time since I posted some conceptions. Odds are I'm going over to the fan fiction section at some point to solidify a plan. I figured I could get started with planning my idea. Message me at some point if you want to hear some more.
The title of the series is going to be Tales of the TMNT. I'm aware the Nickelodeon cartoon's fifth season has this title, but it's the best I can think of for now. For the time being, these will be 20 episode seasons. I may change it as I plan more out. Anyways (skip the spoilers if you don't want to read): Spoiler:
I'm aware my idea has some kinks to it. As mentioned in the past, it's merely a work in progress.
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So, in new thinking...
What if the turtle's mutations were deliberate? Looking back at my idea for the Utroms being in a big turf war with the Triceratons, and what the Ooze was meant to be, I had the idea of it being like liquid Nanogenes from Doctor Who. It would only be meant to heal a specific DNA pattern, so when the healing agents don't recognize a pattern, they just make sh*t up and try to call it a day. When it happens on accident with something, the Specimen 0 (might have to make that its own mutant, it sounds really cool.), the Utroms realize that such a thing might make a good soldier against the Triceratons. Hamato Yoshi, one of their guardians, volunteers to mutate himself so the mutated soldiers in training can be more comfortable with something more like them. Afterwards, Leatherhead and the four turtles were mutated. However, Leatherhead imprinted on the Utroms a little too hard, so it came down to just the turtles. Yoshi trains them in the TCRI basement for seclusion, while not telling them of their origins for years "because they weren't ready". Though, the Super Soldier program ends up falling apart somehow, but they decide not to give up on the four turtles and Leatherhead, who ended up learning combat in a different sense than was intended. Before Splinter is able to tell the turtles of their origins, the MOUSERS come into the basement, with Baxter Stockman not knowing about the Secret Rat Man living below the TCRI building. Thus the turtles are forced to the outside world prematurely to look for their master, while the Utroms have to save Yoshi. How Shredder and the Foot Clan fits into all this...I have no idea yet XD .
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My ideal TMNT show would be something city based with a little of the sci-fi elements. Like more of the Season 1 2003 show with a somber, Mirage inspired tone. It would be 2D animation with character models from the 1990 film. It would probably be centered around the Foot Clan and tell IDW inspired stories if not directly adapting Tom Waltz' scripts.
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Okay, I figured out something to the "deliberate mutations" idea.
Spoiler box for length Spoiler:
As for April and Casey... April is the heiress to a home electronics company. And, being April, she decides she wants to know some engineering to better understand what exactly she'd inheriting. This brings her to Baxter Stockman, who works for TCRI fifteen years after the Hamato-Oroku Incident. She helps him construct the MOUSERS, which ultimately bust their way to the sewers and attack Splinter. Casey is a young man fresh out of foster care and trying to find the sister he was separated from. And, being Casey, hasn't put it together that attempting to reunite what little family he could doesn't pair well with rampant vigilantism. He meets April going in hoping to get mechanic work at TCRI - and of course is turned away for not having enough credentials. They team up when April notices the test MOUSERS on her tracker behaving bizarrely, so they both go to investigate. By the time they reach the area, they find the disturbance gone, and instead find the four turtles, very distressed and trying to find their "father". One thing I would want to return to is a Mirage-type situation where everyone is just shades of gray and no explicit "evil". Rather, a series of conflicts spreading multiple generations, and it's up to the next in line nearing adulthood to resolve at least a few of the problems. I'm also thinking about giving the Malignoid a massive boost in threat level that they lost in IDW. I remembered this horror of nature. So now I know the "big threat" being the infected Malignoids causing havoc. The Triceratons and Utroms blame each other for it happening in the first place, as the virus/fungus started spreading in the midst of their previous war, and both assume it to be some kind of chemical warfare that the other was testing. Maligna is understandably more p*$$ed at losing children/subjects than a bull with a toothache and thinks both groups are equally responsible. Finally, the neutral Neutrinos are caught right in the center of everything...who are only neutral because of how badly they were wrecked the last time they tried to get between the Triceratons and Utroms, and this time, want to be a little more recovered before they try again. The ultimate question is "where did the virus come from?"
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In terms of shows, two things stand out (the first being what I would want more). Bear in mind this is brainstorming as there's a lot that would have to happen to ever make these possible. The first is highly unlikely to ever be made if not guaranteed not to be. The second has more of a chance.
1) A Netflix-style show in the spirit of Mirage. I have been wanting this for many years - since even before they made Daredevil. I'd say hour-long episodes. An R rating would be ideal and it would take the property very seriously. You could have the first season (8-13 episodes) cover up to around when they meet the Fugitoid. Or you could beef up the earlier issues. I am not a creator but they'd figure it out. Either way, you could have multiple seasons up to perhaps City at War, or even beyond into Vol. 2 or Image. 2) An animated show based on IDW - well, definitely the first 100 issues and related minis. This seems more likely than the Mirage Netflix show, but still probably not that likely. Still, it would be nice to see something like this and I would definitely watch. The art style could be similar to the Invincible or Castlevania shows - a more mature look. I would avoid CGI as I don't think it would work for this show. Other non TV show based projects I would love to see but have next to no chance of ever being made: A TMNT game in the style of the Arkham games. It has been covered extensively on here in the past and certain people have made it clear it will never happen. But this thread isn't based on reality; A remake of the 1990 film. It could be updated with better visuals and more modern fighting sequences, with other bits altered; Something completely fresh in the comic arena. Maybe something similar to Mirage in tone but deviating from that and taking its own direction - not the same as Image either. This is a more general wish but something new in the property that we haven't seen before (in terms of storytelling or premise) would be good. It's hard to say though if the well has run dry in this respect. As I say, none of this will likely be made. But it's a dreaming thread. |
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The ideal TMNT series to me would be something that’s a blend of the Mirage comics, IDW comics, 1990 movie, and the best episodes of the 1987 TMNT cartoon (like the 1st season). Design-wise, I like the ninja turtles having different colored bandanas, and I like them better with pupils in their eyes than without any pupils. Personality-wise I don’t mind having them act like immature teenagers now and then, but at the same time, as they grow up, they know when it’s time to be serious and when it’s time to have fun. I prefer Master Splinter as Hamato Yoshi himself rather than he be a pet of Hamato Yoshi. I also prefer Splinter referring to the turtles as his sons rather than his students as well as the four turtles being brothers rather than roommates.
I would have April be a reporter more like the way she was portrayed in the 1990 movie rather than in the 1987 series. I would also, besides Shredder and Krang’s group showing up as the usual antagonists, have Karai, Tatsu, Fugitoid, Casey, the Rat King, Leatherhead, Baxter, the Triceratons, Usagi, and Mona Lisa show up as recurring characters. Ideally, in the early seasons, I want the story arc to feel like a suspenseful late 20th century ninja movie as it focuses on the feud between Yoshi and Saki’s foot clan. Then, the show can gradually get into some sci-fi stuff in the later seasons. I want the series to have a great balance between comedy and action. Last edited by Kold Pizza; 01-31-2024 at 03:37 PM. |
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