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Old 02-20-2019, 04:53 PM   #21
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I'm very inclined to believe that "She was a bitch" was more than enough to suffice as "explanation" for most people. Especially the target audience of 3-to-9 year olds.

It's like, you go into "Oz, The Great and Powerful", and now the Witch is infinitely LESS interesting than she was before. I'm generally not a fan of these things. At least when they try and ascribe "epic backstories" to what is ostensibly children's entertainment, and doubly when they try and make you empathize with the villains. They're villains!

It's a far cry short of finding out that Big Boss was secretly the HERO of the Metal Gear Saga all along, rather than the villain, is what I'm saying. Most often all you do is lose the mystique.
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Old 02-20-2019, 05:40 PM   #22
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I mean, even Wicked tried in both versions. But even that was being written because the author was more butthurt about the Wicked Witch being seemingly pure evil.


And Maleficent did an even worse job. I'd say "we don't talk about Maleficent", but that's unavoidable.

There's a reason why Twisted exists, and that's to make fun of this very concept...while also telling a better story than those.
And even during this scene, of all the villains telling "their" side of the story, they all found Cruella indefensible.


"They're babies!"
"Why would you do that?!"

But Defying Gravity, man...
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Old 02-20-2019, 05:45 PM   #23
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Good call.

My wife is a big fan of "Wicked" and "Maleficent" and all that. BUT, she too is an evil witch with a Persecuted Victim complex, so I personally believe that the viewer's own psychological profile has a direct correlation to what they take away from these things.
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Old 02-20-2019, 06:28 PM   #24
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Old 02-20-2019, 08:56 PM   #25
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Clearly Disney liked what Craig Gillespie did for someone who universally despised by the public in Neon's I, Tonya and want him to try to the same for an iconic villain like Cruella de Vil. Mostly everyone viewed Tonya Harding as a villain, but Gillespie wanted people to at least know that her life was very tough growing up and she might not have been as bad as we thought and show at least a little bit of sympathy for her. I never liked Harding as a person, but if that was what her early life was like then that's too bad. Cruella has always been a uniquely entertaining villain and it's going to be strange to try to make feel bad for her.
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Old 03-12-2019, 02:50 PM   #26
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Nicole Kidman is reportedly being eyed to play a Baroness who is responsible for turning Cruella into the villainous character we all known her as.

https://movieweb.com/cruella-movie-n...illain-disney/
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Old 03-12-2019, 07:03 PM   #27
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Old 03-12-2019, 07:32 PM   #28
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Nicole Kidman is reportedly being eyed to play a Baroness who is responsible for turning Cruella into the villainous character we all known her as.

https://movieweb.com/cruella-movie-n...illain-disney/
Not the husband or the father? Seriously?

Damn. Points for creativity, I guess?
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Old 03-12-2019, 07:58 PM   #29
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This is Disney, she's probably a step mother
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Old 03-12-2019, 09:54 PM   #30
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Or a mentor, maybe? With a highly questionable sense of ethics?
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Old 05-07-2019, 12:15 PM   #31
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Cruella wants to get her new movie done literally "if it takes till next Christmas". It's scheduled for release of December 23, 2020.

Cruella Release Date and Details for Emma Stone Disney Film
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Emma Thompson is actually in talks for the part that Nicole Kidman had been the front-runner for.

Emma Thompson in talks to star in Emma Stone's Cruella movie
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Old 05-14-2019, 08:37 PM   #33
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Old 08-07-2019, 04:00 PM   #34
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Paul Walter Hauser (BlackKkKlansman) and Joel Fry (Game of Thrones) have joined the film as Horace and Jasper, respectively.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...ruella-1227660

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/d...ne-1203295464/
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Old 08-24-2019, 01:54 PM   #35
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Here's the first official look.



https://deadline.com/2019/08/cruella...ff-1202703533/

Earlier this month, Disney postponed the release till Memorial Day Weekend 2021 to avoid competition with Stephen Spielberg's remake of West Side Story . I also think that Aladdin's having a stellar opening around that time might've played a part in that decision. Interestingly, that year also marks the 60th anniversary of the original animated movie as well as the 25th anniversary of the remake starring Glenn Close.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...pushed-1233375
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Old 09-04-2019, 06:21 PM   #36
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I'm digging the punk-esque sweater vest.

Otherwise, I'm not interested in viewing a film that'll try to sympathize with an animal abuser.
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Old 09-05-2019, 09:01 AM   #37
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When do we get a movie about how Baroness turned evil? How about how the one who turned Baroness evil, was turned evil? Eventually we'll get to the root of all evil. But who turned them evil?
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When do we get a movie about how Baroness turned evil? How about how the one who turned Baroness evil, was turned evil? Eventually we'll get to the root of all evil. But who turned them evil?
Mickey Mouse, and his accursed lust for riches and material wealth.
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Old 09-05-2019, 01:55 PM   #39
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Was I supposed to know Steven Spielberg was remaking West Side Story, or did I just find out about that on a thread about useless Disney villain backstory?
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Old 09-11-2019, 08:41 PM   #40
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Spoiler:
Here are photos of Cruella before her evil transformation into the character we all know.







https://thedisinsider.com/2019/09/02...ight-red-hair/



Also,

Spoiler:
Jasper and Horace are apparently up to no good.







https://thedisinsider.com/2019/09/06...hotos-cruella/
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