Star Wars Episode 8 - Page 9

*Andrew NDB* · 01-23-2017, 03:30 PM

Here's a question... obviously he can use the Force and he was taught briefly (collectively maybe 3 days... maybe) by a couple of Jedi, but can Luke even call himself a Jedi? He was never inducted into or was otherwise a part of their order, never went through the conditioning, never even set foot in a Jedi temple, and he was never a padawan or anything.

Seems to me Anakin remains (well, until he died, anyway) the titular last Jedi.

*plastroncafe* · 01-23-2017, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Here's a question... obviously he can use the Force and he was taught briefly (collectively maybe 3 days... maybe) by a couple of Jedi, but can Luke even call himself a Jedi? He was never inducted into or was otherwise a part of their order, never went through the conditioning, never even set foot in a Jedi temple, and he was never a padawan or anything.

Seems to me Anakin remains (well, until he died, anyway) the titular last Jedi.

This assumes that ALL the other Jedi were dead at the end of Jedi.
We had Yoda and Obi Wan, who's to say others didn't come out of the woodwork when they learned Vader was dead.

Rylo Ren killed/destroyed the new temple Luke was building, we know this much from Han.

So now...now Luke might be the last Jedi.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 01-23-2017, 03:35 PM

I always assumed that Luke visited Dagobah repeatedly between ESB and RotJ.

*Andrew NDB* · 01-23-2017, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

This assumes that ALL the other Jedi were dead at the end of Jedi.
We had Yoda and Obi Wan, who's to say others didn't come out of the woodwork when they learned Vader was dead.

Rylo Ren killed/destroyed the new temple Luke was building, we know this much from Han.

So now...now Luke might be the last Jedi.

I guess so.

I really think Lucas was trying to make a distinction between "I can use the Force" vs. "I'm a Jedi" or "I'm a Sith." In fact, the prequels made the Jedi Order itself seem kind of inept (unable to detect the Sith Lord in their midst) and inherently flawed (if you join the Jedi, you can never love, you have to basically give up your family, etc.). I believe any Lucas-written third trilogy would have probably gotten away from Jedi Knights/masters, that sort of stuff.

*plastroncafe* · 01-23-2017, 03:38 PM

They're monastic warrior monks/nuns. Not marrying, having earthly attachments, isn't exactly a new concept in fiction or the real world.

*Shark_Blade* · 01-23-2017, 03:57 PM

Goodbye Luke Skywalker... the last Jedi is Rey.

*Andrew NDB* · 01-23-2017, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Goodbye Luke Skywalker... the last Jedi is Rey.

She's not even a Jedi. Just some Force sensitive chick who figured out how to move a lightsaber at a critical moment.

*Cure* · 01-23-2017, 04:49 PM

Jedi can also be plural, like The Last Samurai. Tom Cruise wasn't the last one, people, it was all of them.

*Andrew NDB* · 01-23-2017, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure

Jedi can also be plural, like The Last Samurai.

Yeah, I get that. Same as Sith. I always took "Return of the Jedi" as plural.

*Cure* · 01-23-2017, 04:56 PM

I didn't mean you specifically, just throwing it out there. You all have good points and it can mean anything.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 01-23-2017, 05:54 PM

Do foreign languages have a plural for the word 'Jedi'?
If so, has Disney offered an official translation for the film's title in any of those languages?

*CyberCubed* · 01-23-2017, 06:20 PM

I haven't been following, are both Finn and Rey going to become Jedi or only one of them?

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 01-23-2017, 06:22 PM

I don't know, idiot, no one here has seen the movie.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 01-23-2017, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I haven't been following, are both Finn and Rey going to become Jedi or only one of them?

#1. No indication that anyone other than Rey is Force-sensitive.
#2. Look at how closely VII mirrored IV: the desert orphan was the only Force sensitive character (Rey/Luke), the wanted antihero was decidedly NOT Force sensitive yet was absolutely necessary to the desert orphan's success (Finn/Han), and the beautiful damsel in distress had to be rescued from Imperial torture and interrogation (Poe/Leia).

Princess Poe... eh, doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

*Jephael* · 01-23-2017, 07:38 PM

*CyberCubed* · 01-23-2017, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

I don't know, idiot, no one here has seen the movie.

Is there something wrong with you?

*MikeandRaph87* · 01-23-2017, 08:12 PM

Should Return of The Jedi be changed in its title since episode 8 is The Last Jedi? They restart beginning with Luke then reference the same again only that he is alone in his generation. Maybe I am overthinking it.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 01-24-2017, 05:26 AM

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Is there something wrong with you?

I assumed that that was just another one of your troll posts, so I gave your stupid question a stupid answer. If it was actually in earnest then I apologize.

*ToTheNines* · 01-24-2017, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp

That's kind of a retcon though, it's obviously meant to be Luke.

How is it a retcon? Vader was known as a fallen Jedi from day one. And you see his force ghost in Jedi robes at the end.

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

I always assumed that Luke visited Dagobah repeatedly between ESB and RotJ.

Well there's only about 1 year between Empire and Jedi. And I'm pretty sure (at least in the old canon) that Luke spent most of that time on Tatooine reading Ben's journal, building his light saber, and plotting to take down Jabba.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Is there something wrong with you?

Shut up, cuck.

*TigerClaw* · 01-24-2017, 05:28 PM

Rian Johnson just posted an image with a tease of the Opening Crawl.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPqBSPZBRoo/

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Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,252	Here's a question... obviously he can use the Force and he was taught briefly (collectively maybe 3 days... maybe) by a couple of Jedi, but can Luke even call himself a Jedi? He was never inducted into or was otherwise a part of their order, never went through the conditioning, never even set foot in a Jedi temple, and he was never a padawan or anything. Seems to me Anakin remains (well, until he died, anyway) the titular last Jedi. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

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Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	Jedi can also be plural, like The Last Samurai. Tom Cruise wasn't the last one, people, it was all of them. __________________

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Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	I didn't mean you specifically, just throwing it out there. You all have good points and it can mean anything. __________________

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MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,131	Should Return of The Jedi be changed in its title since episode 8 is The Last Jedi? They restart beginning with Luke then reference the same again only that he is alone in his generation. Maybe I am overthinking it. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

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Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,902	Goodbye Luke Skywalker... the last Jedi is Rey.

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CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,031	I haven't been following, are both Finn and Rey going to become Jedi or only one of them?

01-24-2017, 05:28 PM	#180
TigerClaw Mutant Tiger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hialeah, Florida, USA Posts: 13,816	Rian Johnson just posted an image with a tease of the Opening Crawl. https://www.instagram.com/p/BPqBSPZBRoo/ __________________