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Old 10-03-2022, 01:06 PM   #141
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Little touch of Iron Heart there in the trailer...
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Old 10-03-2022, 02:23 PM   #142
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Old 10-03-2022, 02:31 PM   #143
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I'm interested, which is more than I can say for most recent MCU projects. I think that was a pretty good trailer.
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Old 10-03-2022, 04:20 PM   #144
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Sadly it's nothing about Black Panther, the "real" one anyway. Now it just looks like some African nation movie.
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Old 10-03-2022, 04:27 PM   #145
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Old 10-03-2022, 04:50 PM   #146
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Why? If it’s Shuri, it’s canon to the comics.
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Old 10-03-2022, 05:31 PM   #147
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Why? If it’s Shuri, it’s canon to the comics.
You mean right after T'Challa was only Black Panther for 5 minutes and then dropped dead? I doubt it.
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Old 10-03-2022, 05:56 PM   #148
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I mean, it was a real sh!t situation with Boseman dying. But what would you've had them do?

The trailer was pretty good to me; I'm probably more excited for this than I was for Multiverse of Madness
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Old 10-03-2022, 06:33 PM   #149
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I mean, it was a real sh!t situation with Boseman dying. But what would you've had them do?
Recast, of course. Even his brother said that's what he would have wanted. Now Marvel is stunting the legacy of the character he brought to life and buying it in the casket right along with Chadwick.

It's really pretty infuriating.
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Old 10-04-2022, 02:23 AM   #150
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It's nothing to be ashamed of. It's a sensitive situation. Really no need to point fingers and make accusations, just because you disagree with how they handled it.

They can always have a new T'Challa in the future,
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Old 10-04-2022, 09:01 AM   #151
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It's nothing to be ashamed of. It's a sensitive situation. Really no need to point fingers and make accusations, just because you disagree with how they handled it.

They can always have a new T'Challa in the future,
Naw cause if they could then they'd just do it NOW.
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You think Disney is capable of feeling shame?
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Old 10-04-2022, 09:49 AM   #153
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Recast, of course. Even his brother said that's what he would have wanted. Now Marvel is stunting the legacy of the character he brought to life and burying it in the casket right along with Chadwick.

It's really pretty infuriating.
Unfortunately, Boseman died without sharing his thoughts on the matter. I can respect that different parties, both trying to honor his life and legacy, have reached different conclusions about how best to do that. Honestly, just a really sh!tty situation. I can't imagine many actors would have been too eager to jump into the role, knowing the scrutiny they'd be under and the endless comparisons to Boseman's portrayal they'd have to face. But it does also suck for us moviegoers, because I don't know how long it'll be now before we see someone cast as T'Challa as the Black Panther again.

When will Marvel be rebooted? Star Wars still never has. Does the MCU have as much staying power as that, to just keep going without having to hit the reset button? I don't want to get into the quality of the Star Wars stuff as that's a whole nother can of worms, but nobody can deny the brand still has a lot of pull (read: profitability).



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Naw cause if they could then they'd just do it NOW.
That makes absolutely no sense
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Old 10-04-2022, 11:01 AM   #154
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Recast, of course. Even his brother said that's what he would have wanted. Now Marvel is stunting the legacy of the character he brought to life and buying it in the casket right along with Chadwick.

It's really pretty infuriating.
They didn't recast Boseman out of.... you know... respect for the Black Community.

But now they want to recast Hurt as General Ross, possibly using Harrison Ford.

Most likely white people wouldn't be up in arms about the "disregard for a white man" or something like that. It must be because of the white supremacists. Or the misogynists. One of those two for sure.
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Unfortunately, Boseman died without sharing his thoughts on the matter. I can respect that different parties, both trying to honor his life and legacy, have reached different conclusions about how best to do that. Honestly, just a really sh!tty situation. I can't imagine many actors would have been too eager to jump into the role, knowing the scrutiny they'd be under and the endless comparisons to Boseman's portrayal they'd have to face. But it does also suck for us moviegoers, because I don't know how long it'll be now before we see someone cast as T'Challa as the Black Panther again.

When will Marvel be rebooted? Star Wars still never has. Does the MCU have as much staying power as that, to just keep going without having to hit the reset button? I don't want to get into the quality of the Star Wars stuff as that's a whole nother can of worms, but nobody can deny the brand still has a lot of pull (read: profitability).





That makes absolutely no sense




It makes less sense than having the character die after already 'dying' and then coming back after 'the blip'.

Like I know the real world reason, but in-universe that's just bad writing. The show must go on. Or just don't make a sequel.
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It makes less sense than having the character die after already 'dying' and then coming back after 'the blip'.

Like I know the real world reason, but in-universe that's just bad writing. The show must go on. Or just don't make a sequel.
I mean, yeah it sucks but sometimes real life is just "bad writing". Sh!t situations happen and we have to make the best of them, and no amount of whining about how things should've gone will do any good. I am curious though as to how they will contextualize T'Challa's death. Obviously it's something that's happened in-universe but I imagine they don't want to make it a huge plot point of the film, more so something that happened before the events of the movie unfold and that the surviving characters are still contending with. Shoot, it might as well just be chalked up to random, unfortunate illness, just like in real life.

But thinking it was even a possibility for a company to just not make a sequel to a billion dollar movie that is a part of a multi-billion dollar franchise is just asinine
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When will Marvel be rebooted? Star Wars still never has.
It sort of has, once Disney bought Lucasfilm a whole load of the canon EU and other materials became "legends" and removed from being canon. The only things remaining iirc were the films, and the Clone Wars series.
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It makes less sense than having the character die after already 'dying' and then coming back after 'the blip'.
Right? wtf! Wakanda just got him back and then he died again? I can't even fathom why anyone there would be impressed with T'Challa's legacy because he wasn't allowed to have one. His legacy is that he became king, spent 5 years being blipped and presumed dead, then coming back and dying for real -- wow!
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But thinking it was even a possibility for a company to just not make a sequel to a billion dollar movie that is a part of a multi-billion dollar franchise is just asinine
If it was a standalone movie series, yeah, but this is just one cog in the greater MCU. Without T'Challa, they can reserve Wakanda for any other movie that just so happens to take place there for a bit, or give Shuri, Oyoke or M'Baku their own series or such other nonsense.


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Right? wtf! Wakanda just got him back and then he died again? I can't even fathom why anyone there would be impressed with T'Challa's legacy because he wasn't allowed to have one. His legacy is that he became king, spent 5 years being blipped and presumed dead, then coming back and dying for real -- wow!
Right? Dude was king for like a weekend. It's a shame what happened to Chadwick in real life but the character shouldn't suffer because of it. I mean imagine if anything (god forbid) happened to any of the major players before they wrapped up filming for End Game? And I mean before they filmed all their scenes.
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Old 10-04-2022, 07:38 PM   #160
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It’s easy for you guys to say “just recast now and film with a new actor” when you didn’t know Chadwick personally. Sure, they had professional relationships but they were obviously friends as well.

It’s a very awkward situation to throw someone else in the role, that soon after such a tragic passing, and expect the entire cast and crew to just go with it.

Losing a young friend to cancer is traumatizing. Try to have some empathy for them and understand that there was no easy choice to be made. Maybe there is more at stake than the script to a comic book movie.

Plus, while many people are dying to play that role, I doubt many were dying to take that role, months after Chadwick died.
If you wait, you probably open your options up tenfold.

So I can see why they made this decision in both a personal and a strategic sense.

William Hurt is not an apt comparison. His death is not as tragic as Chadwick’s, because he was able to live a long, full life. It’s also a much smaller role, which would hardly effect anyone.

Yeah, it gives the character an awkward arc in the MCU, but let’s be real, the blip did that to everyone. Spider-Man went to space and died for five years before learning that with great power comes great responsibility. Oh well.

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