The Suicide Squad - Page 2

*raph27* · 08-23-2020, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I just hope they kinda, explain stuff. Like did the first movie still happen, did Birds of Prey still happen, even though I think that one acts like SS did happen. IDK, woulda been less confusing if they left out Harley or re-cast her, which I know they would never do since she's too popular, but casting her here and technically saying this is a different Harley is like if they casted Leto in Joker and insisted it wasn't the same one from SS.

I'm betting it'll be just like how Birds of Prey treated the original Suicide Squad movie: mostly ignore it except for one or two small nods. As far as I remember, the only outright reference in BoP was when they found the "Daddy's Lil Monster" shirt in the funhouse.

~~Sumac~~ · 08-23-2020, 12:57 PM

I am so ****ing tired of those semi-reboots.
Just call movie Suicide Squad 2 or Suicide Squad: Quirky Subtitle.

*Leo656* · 08-23-2020, 06:00 PM

With Rick Flagg, Boomerang, Waller and Harley all being in it, and played by the same actors, it's pretty clear that it'll treat the first Squad movie as a case of "It happened, but it's in the past and we're really not gonna dwell on it."

It's a way to go, I guess. I just hate how many Big Plot Points and character development moments have to take place off-camera between movies just because the new director(s) don't want to touch what the old ones did. Happens everywhere nowadays. Don't these people talk to each other?

I know it's just "connective tissue", but it's important. Like, after all they showed of Harley/Joker and their "relationship" in the first movie, BoP picks it up all casual like "Oh, yeah, she left him and that's that." Geeeeeez, that's kind of too important to be a footnote in the larger story, ain't it?

I'unno. Anyways, yeah, it's clearly a sequel, but one of those "We're banking on most of you coming for Gunn's name on it because you loved GotG, and we're just gonna pretend none of you saw the first one" kinda "sequels".

I wanted more Croc and Katana. But nobody ever asks me.

~~AquaParade~~ · 08-23-2020, 08:40 PM

I feel like SS isn't worth acknowledging. If the film was good, it'd be different. And I'll be honest in that this, next to JL, is the worst movie I've seen in a while, so I may be on the extreme end of the spectrum.

*Andrew NDB* · 08-23-2020, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

I wanted more Croc and Katana.

And this looks to be hard R? It'd be the perfect time for them to shine. Croc going to town on people (like we never got to see in the first one) and Katana slicing people up.

*Leo656* · 08-24-2020, 12:28 AM

That'd be awesome. They got the look for Croc absolutely perfect. Both of them, really, but Croc's look is hard to pull off. That really impressed me.

For whatever other issues it had, they really nailed the look for some of the characters in that movie. They made some strange choices all over the place but some of the costuming was absolutely on-point.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 08-24-2020, 08:48 AM

I, too, loved the Suicide Squad Croc and really wished we'd see him again. Apparently not here, alas.

*Leo656* · 08-24-2020, 03:37 PM

He's too busy watching BET.

*LeotheLateBloomer* · 08-24-2020, 04:26 PM

The first SS movie got Croc's design right but the dialogue, not so much.

At least they remember that he's a guy with a bizarre skin disease as opposed to a giant mutant crocodile. There were some versions where he looked like a T-Rex.

*Leo656* · 08-24-2020, 04:36 PM

Yeah, that's too far. I mean the "secondary mutation" bit, eh, that's interesting, but... you could tell that those specific writers just wished they had Spider-Man's Lizard to work with instead, and just reshaped "Croc" to fit their needs rather than actually trying to, y'know, write Killer Croc properly.

*Autbot_Benz* · 10-23-2020, 11:39 AM

*Leo656* · 10-23-2020, 12:57 PM

Pete Davidson is in this? Oh, GROSS. Hopefully he gets killed off first. That guy's f*cking insufferable. John Cena's bad enough but if Davidson is in the movie a lot then this one's a Hard Pass from me, dawg.

Not planning on seeing this until after I get full Spoilers. Because there's way too many people I can't stand in it and they're asking me to forgive a lot before they even get started. You can assume Cena's character survives because they have Big Plans for him (plus, John Cena

You KNOW they're gonna try and get him and The Rock in the same movie sooner rather than later, so no way he bites it in this one), but I'm gonna need some of these other guys to get killed off and FAST or else I'm not gonna be able to sit through this.

As it is, it just looks... dumb. I generally do not like Gunn's movies, and this looks... like one of His Movies.

Polka-Dot Man? Seriously. C'mon.

*Andrew NDB* · 10-23-2020, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Pete Davidson is in this? Oh, GROSS. Hopefully he gets killed off first. That guy's f*cking insufferable.

Yeah, he's pretty terrible IRL.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 10-24-2020, 07:03 PM

I feel like neither Gunn nor Ayer really understand Suicide Squad.

We need interesting characters who aren't ALL jokes, AND some of them need to die.

Ayer barely killed anybody, but he did give us interesting mid-level characters who were decently skilled: El Diablo, Killer Croc, Harley, Deadshot, Boomerang. Now, he SQUANDERED a lot of those characters (Boomerang and Killer Croc), but the potential was there.

Gunn... well, we'll see. Killer Shark, Harley, and whoever the fvck Idris Elba is playing. Those are the only ones I currently give a fvck about. And only if Harley is more Batman Harley than weird "SJW Chick Flick" Harley. Ugh.

*Leo656* · 10-24-2020, 10:24 PM

For a movie about the Suicide Squad, the first one really did more Right than Wrong in the grand scheme of things. It sure didn't seem to hit the mark with a lot of people as a movie, but I mean, it totally represented the "brand" or whatever correctly, for the most part. It's a mess, especially Act III, but I think it says a lot that the guy who created the Squad for the comics said that it was everything he'd expect to see in a movie about them. I think the rest has a lot to do with, "Was the movie even necessary?" And that's a conversation. I'unno, I feel like they aimed squarely for the middle and hit it. A lot could have been done differently, for sure, but I mean... that's the Squad, those are the characters... everyone IN it was done perfectly, to my eyes, they just didn't get a lot to do because the studio didn't know if they were making a comic book version of "The Expendables" or a black comedy about "Harley Quinn and Her Wacky Pals." But for better and worse, that was definitely the Suicide Squad. Like that's what those characters (and a movie about those characters) looks like.

A lot of things were allegedly very different before the studio took final cut away from Ayer. In the unlikely event that his cut ever saw the light of day, I'd be very interested in seeing it. For one thing, I love alternate cuts of movies in general; I find it fascinating to see how different sets of hands can alter the entire shape and direction of a film (for Better and/or Worse). And I feel like there was probably a more coherent narrative before WB started tinkering with it. There's at least THREE different versions of that movie, as I understand it. That's nuts! I doubt any of them is a masterpiece, but I'm willing to entertain the notion that Ayer kinda knew what he was doing with it and that WB didn't have a clue what they wanted. Hence the multiple different cuts with varying plot points and tones.

This time out, I feel like Gunn ALSO knows exactly what he wants to do and WB is just totally letting him, but... this looks a lot more like the Birds of Prey movie than I'm comfortable with.

*Autbot_Benz* · 11-14-2020, 01:26 PM

Slyvester Stallone is in the movie

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Sylvester Stallone reveals that he will be in James Gunn’s ‘THE SUICIDE SQUAD’.

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*TurtleTitan97* · 03-26-2021, 10:07 AM

Trailer's out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdlvexsfRAw

*Autbot_Benz* · 03-26-2021, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

Trailer's out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdlvexsfRAw

much better than that 2016 travesty. Also it looks like Slyvester Stallone is voicing King Shark

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 03-26-2021, 10:54 AM

Not feeling it.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-26-2021, 11:03 AM

Eh. Jeeze. I'd just have to see it. Seems like a harder core version of Guardians of the Galaxy... but on Earth. I'd probably enjoy a whole movie where it's just King Shark eating dudes bloodily, but I didn't really chuckle at anything here.

08-23-2020, 06:00 PM	#23
Leo656 The Franchise Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,696	With Rick Flagg, Boomerang, Waller and Harley all being in it, and played by the same actors, it's pretty clear that it'll treat the first Squad movie as a case of "It happened, but it's in the past and we're really not gonna dwell on it." It's a way to go, I guess. I just hate how many Big Plot Points and character development moments have to take place off-camera between movies just because the new director(s) don't want to touch what the old ones did. Happens everywhere nowadays. Don't these people talk to each other? I know it's just "connective tissue", but it's important. Like, after all they showed of Harley/Joker and their "relationship" in the first movie, BoP picks it up all casual like "Oh, yeah, she left him and that's that." Geeeeeez, that's kind of too important to be a footnote in the larger story, ain't it? I'unno. Anyways, yeah, it's clearly a sequel, but one of those "We're banking on most of you coming for Gunn's name on it because you loved GotG, and we're just gonna pretend none of you saw the first one" kinda "sequels". I wanted more Croc and Katana. But nobody ever asks me. __________________ "I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know." nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/

08-24-2020, 12:28 AM	#26
Leo656 The Franchise Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,696	That'd be awesome. They got the look for Croc absolutely perfect. Both of them, really, but Croc's look is hard to pull off. That really impressed me. For whatever other issues it had, they really nailed the look for some of the characters in that movie. They made some strange choices all over the place but some of the costuming was absolutely on-point. __________________ "I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know." nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/

08-24-2020, 08:48 AM	#27
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	I, too, loved the Suicide Squad Croc and really wished we'd see him again. Apparently not here, alas. __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

08-24-2020, 03:37 PM	#28
Leo656 The Franchise Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,696	He's too busy watching BET. __________________ "I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know." nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/

08-24-2020, 04:36 PM	#30
Leo656 The Franchise Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,696	Yeah, that's too far. I mean the "secondary mutation" bit, eh, that's interesting, but... you could tell that those specific writers just wished they had Spider-Man's Lizard to work with instead, and just reshaped "Croc" to fit their needs rather than actually trying to, y'know, write Killer Croc properly. __________________ "I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know." nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/

08-23-2020, 12:57 PM	#22
~~Sumac~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 6,129	I am so ****ing tired of those semi-reboots. Just call movie Suicide Squad 2 or Suicide Squad: Quirky Subtitle.

08-23-2020, 08:40 PM	#24
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	I feel like SS isn't worth acknowledging. If the film was good, it'd be different. And I'll be honest in that this, next to JL, is the worst movie I've seen in a while, so I may be on the extreme end of the spectrum.

08-24-2020, 04:26 PM	#29
LeotheLateBloomer Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 2,976	The first SS movie got Croc's design right but the dialogue, not so much. At least they remember that he's a guy with a bizarre skin disease as opposed to a giant mutant crocodile. There were some versions where he looked like a T-Rex.

10-23-2020, 11:39 AM	#31
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 8,287	__________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

10-23-2020, 12:57 PM	#32
Leo656 The Franchise Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,696	Pete Davidson is in this? Oh, GROSS. Hopefully he gets killed off first. That guy's fcking insufferable. John Cena's bad enough but if Davidson is in the movie a lot then this one's a Hard Pass from me, dawg. Not planning on seeing this until after I get full Spoilers. Because there's way too many people I can't stand in it and they're asking me to forgive a lot before they even get started. You can assume Cena's character survives because they have Big Plans for him (plus, John Cena You KNOW they're gonna try and get him and The Rock in the same movie sooner rather than later, so no way he bites it in this one), but I'm gonna need some of these other guys to get killed off and FAST or else I'm not gonna be able to sit through this. As it is, it just looks... dumb. I generally do not like Gunn's movies, and this looks... like one of His Movies. Polka-Dot Man? Seriously. C'mon. __________________ "I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know."* nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/

10-24-2020, 07:03 PM	#34
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	I feel like neither Gunn nor Ayer really understand Suicide Squad. We need interesting characters who aren't ALL jokes, AND some of them need to die. Ayer barely killed anybody, but he did give us interesting mid-level characters who were decently skilled: El Diablo, Killer Croc, Harley, Deadshot, Boomerang. Now, he SQUANDERED a lot of those characters (Boomerang and Killer Croc), but the potential was there. Gunn... well, we'll see. Killer Shark, Harley, and whoever the fvck Idris Elba is playing. Those are the only ones I currently give a fvck about. And only if Harley is more Batman Harley than weird "SJW Chick Flick" Harley. Ugh. __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

10-24-2020, 10:24 PM	#35
Leo656 The Franchise Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,696	For a movie about the Suicide Squad, the first one really did more Right than Wrong in the grand scheme of things. It sure didn't seem to hit the mark with a lot of people as a movie, but I mean, it totally represented the "brand" or whatever correctly, for the most part. It's a mess, especially Act III, but I think it says a lot that the guy who created the Squad for the comics said that it was everything he'd expect to see in a movie about them. I think the rest has a lot to do with, "Was the movie even necessary?" And that's a conversation. I'unno, I feel like they aimed squarely for the middle and hit it. A lot could have been done differently, for sure, but I mean... that's the Squad, those are the characters... everyone IN it was done perfectly, to my eyes, they just didn't get a lot to do because the studio didn't know if they were making a comic book version of "The Expendables" or a black comedy about "Harley Quinn and Her Wacky Pals." But for better and worse, that was definitely the Suicide Squad. Like that's what those characters (and a movie about those characters) looks like. A lot of things were allegedly very different before the studio took final cut away from Ayer. In the unlikely event that his cut ever saw the light of day, I'd be very interested in seeing it. For one thing, I love alternate cuts of movies in general; I find it fascinating to see how different sets of hands can alter the entire shape and direction of a film (for Better and/or Worse). And I feel like there was probably a more coherent narrative before WB started tinkering with it. There's at least THREE different versions of that movie, as I understand it. That's nuts! I doubt any of them is a masterpiece, but I'm willing to entertain the notion that Ayer kinda knew what he was doing with it and that WB didn't have a clue what they wanted. Hence the multiple different cuts with varying plot points and tones. This time out, I feel like Gunn ALSO knows exactly what he wants to do and WB is just totally letting him, but... this looks a lot more like the Birds of Prey movie than I'm comfortable with. __________________ "I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know." nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/

11-14-2020, 01:26 PM	#36
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 8,287	Slyvester Stallone is in the movie DiscussingFilm @DiscussingFilm · 31m Sylvester Stallone reveals that he will be in James Gunn’s ‘THE SUICIDE SQUAD’. (Source: https://instagram.com/p/CHlVfoypWmF/?igshid=pqgdi20tjw0) __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

03-26-2021, 10:07 AM	#37
TurtleTitan97 Space Cowboy Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Speed Force Posts: 7,043	Trailer's out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdlvexsfRAw __________________

03-26-2021, 10:54 AM	#39
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	Not feeling it. __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

03-26-2021, 11:03 AM	#40
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,274	Eh. Jeeze. I'd just have to see it. Seems like a harder core version of Guardians of the Galaxy... but on Earth. I'd probably enjoy a whole movie where it's just King Shark eating dudes bloodily, but I didn't really chuckle at anything here. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]