03-14-2017, 04:48 PM | #1 |
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How much slack would you cut Bayturtles if...
Now this is highly hypothetical, but give it a try.
How much easier would you have been on Bayturtles if: 1. They were a photorealistic version of what you expect the turtles to look like. 2. They weren't covered in random trinkets and flair. 3. They weren't 9 feet tall and UGLY AS FU*K. They still would have sucked, but I think I would have found the movie a bit more palatable. And the general movie going audience might have agreed. Thoughts? |
03-14-2017, 04:52 PM | #2 |
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They would cut them some slack if they had better Writers, Writers who understand TMNT better, The problem is regardless of who writes the movies, Michael Bay calls the shots, He was the one that changed the tone of the 1st movie, after complaining that it was too serious, and then wanting more humor in it.
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03-14-2017, 05:59 PM | #3 |
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None of that. I could do with them being not quite as large, maybe no bigger than the average man, but that wouldn't really earn any slack cutting.
The Turtles themselves don't really bother me much anymore. The clothing/gear never bothered me, even if the look of some were a little busy at times. I can tolerate the overdone height and bulk in this one version. (And my fave turned out to be kind of adorable at times - at least in my eyes and esp in OotS - so I can deal.) If they want slack cutting, it's going to have to be focused on the writing and use of characters (or overuse of edit: Actually, in terms of their clothing and whatnot, it bugs me most that they were given things that were never used. Such as each of them having a radio on their shoulder in OotS, but never touched it. That it was pointless was annoying. That could have been played for laughs if, say, the cops heard them on the radios, before ever crossing paths with them, and yelled at them to get off that frequency. lol Only to find out later it was the Turtles they heard. So many lost opportunities. Leo's throwing knives and those little axe(?) things on Raph's back (that he'd never reach in a million years) is another example. (And of course 95% of the stuff Donnie carries around.) If you are going to give them these tools - USE THEM. Don't just put it there "because it looks cool." Last edited by IndigoErth; 03-14-2017 at 06:17 PM. |
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I'd have preferred less clutter in the character design, but honestly...they could look amazing and it still wouldn't change the fact that the story was not so good.
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03-14-2017, 06:45 PM | #6 |
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Little to none. The turtle suits from the 1990 movie aren't the best things in the world but that doesn't stop people from enjoying the flick. Bay thinks the opposite is true: people will ignore the bad script if your VFX look neat enough. To some extent he's right. But that philosophy didn't quite pay off for TMNT 2.
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03-14-2017, 06:47 PM | #7 |
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Honestly, I could ignore the god-awful character design if the story had been something that made sense. Although of course I would have preferred a movie with a decent story AND quality character design. Is that too much to ask for??
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Oh it still would have been a wet hot mess of a movie with Farley style turtles, but I'd have bought a dvd for like...icons. Or fanvids or something.
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03-14-2017, 09:01 PM | #10 |
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I just hate those goddamn noses and nostrils. They're so goddamn disgusting. They look like Shrek's nose or noses of the Hulk or something.
I remember being mentally traumatized back in 2014 when the Bayturtle designs were revealed for the first time. I was so morally offended by the noses that I sat there ranting what a disgrace it was on a daily basis for like 2 years. I had never seen something so disturbing and morally wrong before in my entire life as Turtle noses. |
03-14-2017, 10:13 PM | #11 |
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Well if that's the worst you ever get from life, then someday I hope you write your memoir and include a long chapter on the terrible impact mutant Turtle noses had on your life. lol
Still not fond myself of the narrower design for Mikey and esp Raph, but I do like the wider design of Leo and Donnie (even if it took me a while to warm up to it). |
03-14-2017, 10:26 PM | #12 |
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Would it have make it any better in the design of the 1990 film was used and only updated to fit the current technology?
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03-14-2017, 10:40 PM | #13 |
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The designs aren't my favorite but they don't bother me as as much as others. If anything that's the thing I give the most slack because they're mutant turtles. What they look like is all subjective.
The storyline was just a generic take over the city plot. Which is fine but it just was not interesting. Some action scenes and silly elements like learning martial arts from a book connected everything and that's it. I liked that the turtles were Aprils pets before when they were in the lab. That's the only thing I thought was kinda cool. I have not seen part 2 yet.
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03-14-2017, 11:03 PM | #14 |
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I still wouldn't cut them any slack. They wouldn't deserve it. Nothing could've saved those idiotic messes of movies, not even good designs.
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03-14-2017, 11:20 PM | #15 |
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The Hulk turtles I actually grew to like, they kind of work in this universe. I can't say I love them but I didn't hate them in the movie.
Now some of the story of April being involved with the Turtles and Shredder coming out of nowhere etc are the biggest problems of the movie. |
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I agree with everyone thus far, though the biggest mistake they made was casting Megan Fox as April. She just did not fit the part in both films. In the first one she tried too hard, and in the second one she barely phoned it in. Talk about being on opposite sides of the spectrum.
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My issue with this was she cared enough to rescue them but abandoned them in the sewer. Could have taken them to a lake or pond or something. Even the zoo maybe.
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03-15-2017, 02:03 AM | #19 |
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Nope, the story is still trash.
I'd at best probably rewatch a few scenes on youtube now and then if the Turtles at least looked like the Turtles. |
03-15-2017, 06:07 AM | #20 |
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I guess I would be fine with the designs but generally say the movies sucked? Terrible design work is the least of the problems.
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