Do you think that Nickelodeon should continue to own/produce TMNT shows?

*Papenbrook* · 09-09-2017, 02:38 PM

Exactly what it says on the tin.

Personally, I don't think they should. I don't really trust Nickelodeon to give the TMNT franchise proper justice and respect, especially with what's happened recently.

Additionally, it seems that Nickelodeon is clearly not interested in developing the franchise. They seem to toss aside any good thing the series had/has up to this point, all with plain indifference and blatant disrespect.

It's a shame that it had to come to this.

Discuss your own thoughts, opinions, and concerns below.

*CyberCubed* · 09-09-2017, 02:41 PM

Since they already are making another new cartoon, there's no reason to ask this.

I don't want any other company to make TMNT cartoons either, given most of the current Disney action Marvel cartoons are terrible, WB had their chance at making a TMNT cartoon back in 2001 and passed on it (you can see the old designs for the proposed show), and there really isn't anyone else nowadays.

I'm not sure what people are proposing here, what company do they want to make a TMNT show for kids?

*neatoman* · 09-09-2017, 03:11 PM

Unfortunately, all future TMNT shows in the forseeable future will be produced by Nickelodeon. They could in theory let another studio handle it, that's the closest you could get as of now.

*Papenbrook* · 09-09-2017, 03:32 PM

Nickelodeon should've NEVER been allowed to own the TMNT property.

Alas, they got a hold of it, and now we're going to get pissed on ad infinitum.

*CyberCubed* · 09-09-2017, 03:41 PM

Nick was the best thing to happen to TMNT. Otherwise the franchise would be non-existent since 2010.

No new TMNT material at all for the last 7 years and counting would be absurd. Both Mirage and the 2k3 series was over, we'd have nothing else since.

*IndigoErth* · 09-09-2017, 03:45 PM

I've got nothing against Nick. I think they do want to do well with it, but a lot of shows are affected by the current trends in cartoons and 'kid' entertainment unfortunately. And the nitwits who get to make the decisions probably can't see past it being just a "kid's show." *sigh*

If nothing else, I wish it would just be a Viacom property in general and be able to branch out past Nick and be open for different styles (preferably older) of TMNT series on other channels they own. No reason that isn't possible in the future.

*Sabacooza* · 09-09-2017, 04:03 PM

No, Nick should not produce more shows. and Viacom has proven they don't deserve to own it unless they can get their act together.

*Powder* · 09-09-2017, 04:15 PM

I trust Nick more than I would most of their competition. So, yeah, sure. I'd prefer Paramount to keep away, if anything.

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Originally Posted by Papenbrook

Nickelodeon should've NEVER been allowed to own the TMNT property.

Alas, they got a hold of it, and now we're going to get pissed on ad infinitum.

You've made it clear the only version of TMNT you ever even liked in the first place was the Nick series, which you now claim to be completely disinterested in. So I don't see what makes you give a damn one way or another.

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 09-09-2017, 04:17 PM

Yes, Nick does deserve to own it. The 2012 series was really popular in the beginning, and brought a whole new generation of TMNT fans. And while the 2012 show was nowhere near as dark and gritty as mirage, probably stands as the darkest version of the series to date. The decision to license the comic to IDW was a stroke of genius, and has given us what will become the longest running tmnt comic in the franchise's history. Yes, the Micheal Bay film sucked, and the toys and video games are in the middle, I think Nickelodeon has done an overall decent job.

One other factor is if TMNT had been sold to one of the big two comic companies, the turtles would have gotten lost in a sea of other characters, and probably end up as guest or supporting characters in some superhero book. But the biggest reason they deserve to have them, is that is who Peter Laird decided to sell them to, and Kevin Eastman is working with them on new turtles projects. Both of them had involvement in putting TMNT where it is now, so it's not like Nick 'stole' the turtles or anything.

*BubblyShell22* · 09-09-2017, 04:26 PM

Sure, they should. I think the current series has done very well and even though it's ending, the people who ran it did a pretty good job with it overall. Not sure how this other show will be, but I'll give it a chance just as I did with the current one. I was leery about it because I was never big on anything on Nickelodeon, but this show changed my mind and I fell in love with it. Like it or not, Nick owns them and if you don't want to watch the new show or watch the current show anymore then find something else to watch.

Whining and complaining about it is pointless now because Nick will own the franchise until they decide to sell it. Suck it up and get over it.

*Candy Kappa* · 09-09-2017, 04:30 PM

If course Nickelodeon should continue producing more tmnt and own it, they are the ones that bought it.

*newfan* · 09-09-2017, 05:23 PM

I'm not happy with how Nick are treating the current show recently but I love the current show.

~~DWC~~ · 09-09-2017, 05:38 PM

I enjoy the Nick show but I'd love to see an adult Mirage adaptation on Netflix ala the Marvel shows.

*Xav* · 09-09-2017, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Nick was the best thing to happen to TMNT. Otherwise the franchise would be non-existent since 2010.

No new TMNT material at all for the last 7 years and counting would be absurd. Both Mirage and the 2k3 series was over, we'd have nothing else since.

Not true. There was a film in development before the sale.

*CyberCubed* · 09-09-2017, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav

Not true. There was a film in development before the sale.

Well besides that, and they were still having script/development problems.

*snake* · 09-09-2017, 11:14 PM

Yeah, nah. Nick literally saved the franchise and gave Peter Laird a nice fat stack of cash. Poor guy deserved it.

*CyberCubed* · 09-09-2017, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

I trust Nick more than I would most of their competition.

Agreed. WB passed on TMNT already, and a Disney show would be just as bad as their current crop of Marvel cartoons.

Besides that what other companies are there? Mirage had to partner with Fred Wolf and 4kids the first two times, but there's no real companies like that anymore to partner with for a new series.

*Papenbrook* · 09-10-2017, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder

You've made it clear the only version of TMNT you ever even liked in the first place was the Nick series, which you now claim to be completely disinterested in. So I don't see what makes you give a damn one way or another.

You're absolutely correct.

However, that doesn't mean that I'm not concerned with the state of the TMNT franchise (in terms of programming). That doesn't mean I don't care about the fans who have stuck with Nick TMNT through thick and thin, at least until the bitter end.

What Nickelodeon is now doing with the TMNT property (as of this moment) is honestly disgusting, not to mention completely frustrating. I can understand why they're discontinuing the movies, and I can understand why they're advertising TMNT 2k12 less often. What I can't get behind is why, even after the fans have been loyal to them, are they moving Nick TMNT to their graveyard channel (Nicktoons)? Why are they advertising the final episodes of Nick TMNT with a car race? Don't they care about the show's fans?

If Nick is currently treating their latest TMNT show in this manner, then it makes me worried of how they will treat TMNT 2k18. Will they treat it in the same manner?

I think that's why I care so much, Powder.

*Redeemer* · 09-10-2017, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papenbrook

Exactly what it says on the tin.

Personally, I don't think they should. I don't really trust Nickelodeon to give the TMNT franchise proper justice and respect, especially with what's happened recently.

Additionally, it seems that Nickelodeon is clearly not interested in developing the franchise. They seem to toss aside any good thing the series had/has up to this point, all with plain indifference and blatant disrespect.

It's a shame that it had to come to this.

Discuss your own thoughts, opinions, and concerns below.

I am curious have you seen the Nick Series cartoon????? At first I didn't like it, but I decide to give it a chance and I have to hand it to Nick. This cartoon exceeded my expectation and was a lot better than I thought it would be. I still am not the biggest fan of the animation and certain choices, but season 4 of the show is amazing. The story telling is really top notch for that season and they pay a lot of homage to previous incarnations of TMNT.

I am glad Nick bought TMNT. We have gotten a 2 new cartoons now, like 5 new comic lines now lol, and 2 movies (Even if they were horrible)

Hardshell · 09-11-2017, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

SWB had their chance at making a TMNT cartoon back in 2001 and passed on it (you can see the old designs for the proposed show)

Do you have a link for this?

09-09-2017, 02:38 PM	#1
Papenbrook The King of Nothing Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: No comment -_- ... Posts: 2,755	Do you think that Nickelodeon should continue to own/produce TMNT shows? Exactly what it says on the tin. Personally, I don't think they should. I don't really trust Nickelodeon to give the TMNT franchise proper justice and respect, especially with what's happened recently. Additionally, it seems that Nickelodeon is clearly not interested in developing the franchise. They seem to toss aside any good thing the series had/has up to this point, all with plain indifference and blatant disrespect. It's a shame that it had to come to this. Discuss your own thoughts, opinions, and concerns below. Last edited by Papenbrook; 09-09-2017 at 02:52 PM.

09-09-2017, 04:03 PM	#7
Sabacooza Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,986	No, Nick should not produce more shows. and Viacom has proven they don't deserve to own it unless they can get their act together. Last edited by Sabacooza; 09-09-2017 at 04:09 PM.

09-09-2017, 04:26 PM	#10
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Sure, they should. I think the current series has done very well and even though it's ending, the people who ran it did a pretty good job with it overall. Not sure how this other show will be, but I'll give it a chance just as I did with the current one. I was leery about it because I was never big on anything on Nickelodeon, but this show changed my mind and I fell in love with it. Like it or not, Nick owns them and if you don't want to watch the new show or watch the current show anymore then find something else to watch. Whining and complaining about it is pointless now because Nick will own the franchise until they decide to sell it. Suck it up and get over it. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

09-09-2017, 04:30 PM	#11
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	If course Nickelodeon should continue producing more tmnt and own it, they are the ones that bought it. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

09-09-2017, 02:41 PM	#2
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,034	Since they already are making another new cartoon, there's no reason to ask this. I don't want any other company to make TMNT cartoons either, given most of the current Disney action Marvel cartoons are terrible, WB had their chance at making a TMNT cartoon back in 2001 and passed on it (you can see the old designs for the proposed show), and there really isn't anyone else nowadays. I'm not sure what people are proposing here, what company do they want to make a TMNT show for kids?

09-09-2017, 03:32 PM	#4
Papenbrook The King of Nothing Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: No comment -_- ... Posts: 2,755	Nickelodeon should've NEVER been allowed to own the TMNT property. Alas, they got a hold of it, and now we're going to get pissed on ad infinitum.

09-09-2017, 03:41 PM	#5
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,034	Nick was the best thing to happen to TMNT. Otherwise the franchise would be non-existent since 2010. No new TMNT material at all for the last 7 years and counting would be absurd. Both Mirage and the 2k3 series was over, we'd have nothing else since.

09-09-2017, 03:45 PM	#6
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 15,237	I've got nothing against Nick. I think they do want to do well with it, but a lot of shows are affected by the current trends in cartoons and 'kid' entertainment unfortunately. And the nitwits who get to make the decisions probably can't see past it being just a "kid's show." sigh If nothing else, I wish it would just be a Viacom property in general and be able to branch out past Nick and be open for different styles (preferably older) of TMNT series on other channels they own. No reason that isn't possible in the future.

09-09-2017, 04:17 PM	#9
Panda_Kahn_fan Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,715	Yes, Nick does deserve to own it. The 2012 series was really popular in the beginning, and brought a whole new generation of TMNT fans. And while the 2012 show was nowhere near as dark and gritty as mirage, probably stands as the darkest version of the series to date. The decision to license the comic to IDW was a stroke of genius, and has given us what will become the longest running tmnt comic in the franchise's history. Yes, the Micheal Bay film sucked, and the toys and video games are in the middle, I think Nickelodeon has done an overall decent job. One other factor is if TMNT had been sold to one of the big two comic companies, the turtles would have gotten lost in a sea of other characters, and probably end up as guest or supporting characters in some superhero book. But the biggest reason they deserve to have them, is that is who Peter Laird decided to sell them to, and Kevin Eastman is working with them on new turtles projects. Both of them had involvement in putting TMNT where it is now, so it's not like Nick 'stole' the turtles or anything.

09-09-2017, 05:23 PM	#12
newfan Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: UK Posts: 2,393	I'm not happy with how Nick are treating the current show recently but I love the current show.

09-09-2017, 05:38 PM	#13
~~DWC~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 78	I enjoy the Nick show but I'd love to see an adult Mirage adaptation on Netflix ala the Marvel shows.

09-09-2017, 11:14 PM	#16
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,230	Yeah, nah. Nick literally saved the franchise and gave Peter Laird a nice fat stack of cash. Poor guy deserved it.