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Old 10-30-2019, 05:32 AM   #1
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Police investigating ‘hate crime’ after transgender woman turned down for porn role

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COPS are investigating a "hate crime" after a transgender woman was turned down for a porn role "because she has a penis".

Ria Cooper, 25, who became Britain's youngest trans person when she transitioned 10 years ago, says an anonymous photographer messaged her saying he wanted them to have sex on camera and sell the resulting porno. But when he found out Ria still has male reproductive organs he immediately retracted the offer. In messages exchanged over WhatsApp, the photographer claimed he couldn't work with her because "she has a c***".

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Ria has hit out at the "transphobic behaviour" and says she's being unfairly discriminated against in her modelling career.

The woman from Hull, East Yorks., has reported the comments to Humberside Police, which is investigating the incident as a hate crime. She previously appeared on This Morning, when she discussed how she began transitioning at 15.

Ria, who was assigned male at birth, struggled with how the hormones she was prescribed changed her, and shortly after her 18th birthday decided to live as a man. The qualified beauty therapist has now transitioned to a woman, and has opened a hair and beauty salon to help other transgender people. Ria says the man got in touch with her after she released her new glamour modelling portfolio online.

He apparently told her the industry was like a "family" and vowed to help her make her way to the top of it. Then the photographer told Ria he had just been informed by a friend that she is transgender, before saying "Playboy won't accept that". He then cut all contact with Ria, who says her social media profiles clearly state she is a "ladyboy".

Ria has described the comments as "discriminatory" and "appalling", comparing the abuse to that of a racist. She said: "When I first changed I found it really scary and very confusing. "I had no one to lean on for support it was such a massive change. But, now I'm comfortable and confident in my own skin I wanted to help others."

A spokeswoman for Humberside Police said: "We received a report of a hate incident yesterday, on Wednesday, October 16. The report has been logged and will be investigated."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/101624...estigate-porn/
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Old 10-30-2019, 06:48 AM   #2
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I'm sure Ria will find work someplace else in porn, because lots of people will jack off to anything.

That being said, it ain't racist or anything for people to hire others for their characteristics in a porno.
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Old 10-30-2019, 10:56 AM   #3
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That's the push right now. "You won't look at me and treat me 100% like a woman, surgeries or not? OK, I'm going to END you now!" Similarly, you also don't have to look very hard to see a ton of stories from trans women saying that dudes are "transphobic" and terrible neanderthal men for openly saying they would never consider dating them ever, and bunches of people jumping on that bandwagon agreeing.
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Old 10-30-2019, 11:15 AM   #4
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Millenials are having a hard time in adulthood understanding that the real world won't give them a trophy simply for being part of the game.

So this translates into millenials as adults going and crying to the "teacher" anytime they don't get their way.

At a glance this might sound like hyperbole, but it's not. It's the actual operating model for a significant number of these people.
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Old 10-30-2019, 11:28 AM   #5
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Millenials are having a hard time in adulthood understanding that the real world won't give them a trophy simply for being part of the game.

So this translates into millenials as adults going and crying to the "teacher" anytime they don't get their way.

At a glance this might sound like hyperbole, but it's not. It's the actual operating model for a significant number of these people.
Or falling back on and weaponizing language. This seems the go to. You know, inventing words or creating new labels to compartmentalize (and subsequently demonize) people who don't agree with them and place them behind, to then throw rocks at from afar.
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Old 10-30-2019, 11:37 AM   #6
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Hate crime? That's a big exaggeration no? A hate crime would have to involve physical violence or threats. Not all discrimination files under "hate crime". Anyway, that's what lawyers and judges are for. If it gets taken to court, the hate crime charges will probably be dropped.

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I'm sure Ria will find work someplace else in porn, because lots of people will jack off to anything.

That being said, it ain't racist or anything for people to hire others for their characteristics in a porno.
Pornstars themselves admit that their industry is anything but politically correct when it comes to those things. It's all acting to cater to their viewers, anyway.
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Old 10-30-2019, 12:05 PM   #7
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Hate crime? That's a big exaggeration no? A hate crime would have to involve physical violence or threats. Not all discrimination files under "hate crime". Anyway, that's what lawyers and judges are for. If it gets taken to court, the hate crime charges will probably be dropped.


Pornstars themselves admit that their industry is anything but politically correct when it comes to those things. It's all acting to cater to their viewers, anyway.
The problem is that everything is so convoluted nowadays that the news source could've sensationalized the story. People also don't largely understand that the police respond to a call and investigate the situation right there and then (which is mandatory). For them to pursue further investigation after the initial response is not mandatory if the call is deemed nonsense, or without violation.

And so, for all we know the damn reporter is exaggerating the circumstances of "investigation" just to sensationalize the story. Personally, I can't believe that the police would actually investigate this further after the initial call response.
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Yeaaah... First off, I'm not sure some guy calling you up and saying "lets do it on camera and then sell it" qualifies as anything to do with your "modelling career." That is, if you want to do legit professional modeling, not just be some porn star, so I'm not sure doing what he wanted, even if he hadn't backed out, is what you want in your resume to begin with.

I can understand being mad if it was money and career help that suddenly vanished. But other people have things fall through all the time too. But if porn is the goal, not actual respectable modeling... I'm certain there is probably a big area of porn for people who have not had the surgery, so really, chill out sister, it's not like there isn't plenty more opportunity out there for people of your configuration to get involved. Cripe, you can start uploading your own stuff and try to get a following.

And if porn isn't the goal... it's for the best that it fell through. He doesn't sound like someone with your best interests in mind and not the person to get help from for a normal modelling career.
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Old 10-30-2019, 01:09 PM   #9
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Regardless of this man's sex and "identity", saying "no" on the job is not a hate crime.

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That's the push right now. "You won't look at me and treat me 100% like a woman, surgeries or not? OK, I'm going to END you now!" Similarly, you also don't have to look very hard to see a ton of stories from trans women saying that dudes are "transphobic" and terrible neanderthal men for openly saying they would never consider dating them ever, and bunches of people jumping on that bandwagon agreeing.
Worse yet, they often attack women for not "being inclusive enough", i.e. allowing obviously disturbed men into showers, dressing rooms, shelters and so on.
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This is from the same newspaper that published this headline, so, maybe, don't believe everything you read.

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Ah, so a tabloid, no wonder it was "news" to begin with...



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A quick Google turns this story up from many sites.
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A quick Google turns this story up from many sites.
Feel free to post any and all fake news.
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A quick Google turns this story up from many sites.
Eh, let's lead with a solid source next time then (not that it was you who started this thread, but...).
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This is from the same newspaper that published this headline, so, maybe, don't believe everything you read.

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Eh, let's lead with a solid source next time then (not that it was you who started this thread, but...).
When you have world events and headlines that are not distinguishable as to their source between the news, tabloids and even parody websites (i.e. The Onion), it certainly makes a statement about the trajectory of the culture.

https://www.westernjournal.com/man-a...ale-genitalia/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-penis.html
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...e-to-her-pnis/
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When you have world events and headlines that are not distinguishable as to their source between the news, tabloids and even parody websites (i.e. The Onion), it certainly makes a statement about the trajectory of the culture.
Absolutely. Ab. So. Lutely.

On occasion Tim Pool will drift into my YouTube feed as it plays in the background. And at times I really enjoy his mildly vitriolic, but accurate logic as he points out things that should be obvious to everyone on Earth, but isn't.

And then he'll go and do a "show" sourcing from the Daily Mail and I can't help but facepalm. Granted, the Daily Mail only mildly sensationalizes real news, but still.... the Daily Mail. Tabloids or sources for "people who want some entertainment from the newspaper" shouldn't be cited.... ever.

At least the Daily Mail doesn't do "the Bat Boy" stories though. I just picked the Bat Boy because I remember that all over the supermarket racks when I was a kid.
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Millenials are having a hard time in adulthood understanding that the real world won't give them a trophy simply for being part of the game.

So this translates into millenials as adults going and crying to the "teacher" anytime they don't get their way.

At a glance this might sound like hyperbole, but it's not. It's the actual operating model for a significant number of these people.
Nope, this is hyperbole. The worst entitlement and privilege I’ve ever seen is from boomers. People love to hate on the younger generation because they don’t like to acknowledge their own privileges. The most pearl clutching in the world comes from people that can’t handle millennials speaking up for themselves.
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I’m not sure why this stuff counts as news, but okay. This is why there are courts to determine if something is actually discrimination or not. If you are being discriminatory then it’s a problem. If a crazy person is trying to trap you then they will get the slap on the wrist. We had a case of a trans woman who kept going to waxing salons and trying to bully marginalized, racialized women into waxing her balls. She filed some human rights complaint but was found to be doing this out of racism and to fulfil a fetish or something and had to pay the salons money. Then all the newspapers were like this is why we have to worry about allowing gender identity to be a category in human rights cases. Actually no—you don’t have to worry. If the person has a genuine case and you were being transphobic, you do have to worry. If they are just exploiting legal loopholes and are actually a big creep, they will pay for it. So stop hand wringing.
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Nope, this is hyperbole. The worst entitlement and privilege I’ve ever seen is from boomers. People love to hate on the younger generation because they don’t like to acknowledge their own privileges. The most pearl clutching in the world comes from people that can’t handle millennials speaking up for themselves.
I don't see it, honestly. For all this millennial whining about "boomers", so far I see mostly millennials whining about everything under the sun.
But considering that a lot of millennial whining has become indistinguishable from conservative whining, I can understand how they can be confused for one another.

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We had a case of a trans woman who kept going to waxing salons and trying to bully marginalized, racialized women into waxing her balls. She filed some human rights complaint but was found to be doing this out of racism and to fulfil a fetish or something and had to pay the salons money.
This man is complete basket case and a borderline pedo. The problem is that a lot of people in transcult consider him to be "poor oppressed victim" and defend him.
If they outright stated that this guy is completely insane and doesn't represent anything about trans community, that would have been one thing, but it seems transcult is not interested in it.

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If they are just exploiting legal loopholes and are actually a big creep, they will pay for it. So stop hand wringing.
Unlikely if they are supported by massive organization and internet mob. Otherwise guy from the sentence above, Yaniv, would have been in jail or in asylum long time ago.

The fact that inaction of transcult and their rampant clinging to their horrid ideology does nothing, at the expense of logic and safety of women and kids, but empowers crazies to be even more crazy. And there is no accountability, since in eyes of transcult any accountability is transphobic.
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